First I saw this on my CDUs after a firmware update…
…then a web search found this. Wonder if they are going racing?
first of all, beautiful kit you got there. I didn’t notice either. I just opened SimAppPro and noticed the rebranding for the first time myself. Nobody has come to my house to replace the branding on my Orion II yet. I uhh.. liked the Winwing name more I suppose but I am still very keen on everything FFB coming out supposedly this year.
I’m curious too how their FFB will stack up. Moza releasing the $400 AB6 including a decent grip and mounting bracket probably threw everyone in a tailspin and back to strategy meetings.
They better not 
I am patiently waiting on Virpil to drop a FFB base. No matter the asking price.
I’m waiting on someone to release FFB pedals, too, other than Brunner.
The AB6 is amazing, but winctrl was supposedly designing a base with 3 times the torque for not much more money than that. Not to mention a 60Nm model. That’s about as much torque as a half-decent e-bike. Should be able to properly armwrestle that one. But with none of these products being out and real yet, and me having no clue what Virpil is cooking, I’m holding out for now.
Really hope they come out some day soon.
This is wild. Dual cockpit FFB - remote! But wait, there’s more
Cool!
Maybe WinCTRL will make their own FFB software too, instead of…finding inspiration…in others… 
I sent a that link to an A320 captain that I know.
His reply - “If I had a zero latency link to the aircraft I could work from home” 
Allrighty then. So, as reported in the DCS thread, I went to the flight sim weekend over in Lelystad this afternoon (march 22, 2026) to cop a feel on these new cyber taurus thingamibobs.
I have played with a Moza before, on another flight sim convention a couple months ago.
These kick that to the curb. They feel way more solid.
I’d say the hardware is great. Good to go. Especially if it allows us to screw on our own handles (I’m not quite ready to part with my virpil handle with the handbrake lever). Stupidly powerful, and it’s good in such machinery to have gobs of excess power. Powerrrr!!! But no ■■■■, these seem to be well made units.
As for the software. eh… not quite there yet. It’s going to need some time in the oven I reckon. On the other hand, having them out in the wild will make the software gestate that much faster.
Well, the upside of that is that they are probably writing their own code instead of leeching from others, like Moza did.
What did they do??
They used the open source software for VP Force for their own software. The license agreement says any derivates must also be open source and they didn’t credit VP Force.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/352058-force-feedback-joystick-from-moza/page/27/#comment-5545803
Could you elaborate on this?
I was absolutely smitten. That’s affordable, powerful, and useful.
I’m so impressed.
You know how rough, unready software is right? Crashing, taking forever to load for unexplicable reasons, doing odd stuff, unrefined settings and profiles, etc.
Settling for an opensource standard would be the bees’ knees. But sadly these days hardware doesn’t come with a simple driver to an api anymore, no they have to have “software suites” preferably including storefronts 
Ah okay, clear.
Oh my.. sorely tempted.
Woof. Desk Mount my hot potato. I feel like that’ll rip a chunk out of a desk like a great white.