I did a tour around Berlin and there’s two (technically one that’s copy-pasted) Soviet war memorials that I can’t find a record of existing. One is located in a park just behind the TV tower and train station. A carbon copy of it is on a hill somewhat north-ish of the city on the outskirts. It’s a slightly curved pillar with a red star on it, two walls on either side stating “1941” and “1945,” with an eternal flame in the center.
Anyone know anything about those?
Could this be it?
Soviet War Memorial (Treptower Park) - Wikipedia
Probably the Soviet Memorial behind the Brandenburg Tor at the Tiergarten. I haven’t looked for it yet, but it has fairly distinctive architecture.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/19z87uAgRW2jFCNB7?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy
That one is in the game too but these two are different.
the balls to put the Eurofighter in the trailer lol
Yeah, baby. This looks great on a big screen. NSFW due to language.
I think it’s a fabrication by Ugra. There is no memorial on that block IRL. There are appartments (most likely built before 1980) and a cemetry.
Unplayable! How dare they release this dreck in such a deplorable state!
@Derbysieger also I thought the trees were a bit close to the taxiway, was worried about removing my migs wingtips
To those whom it may concern, I’ve compiled a simple ORBAT of Redfor air forces in East Germany ca. 1990. It isn’t complete and mostly absents units that aren’t going to come into play in DCS in any fashion (i.e. not modeled and no decent stand-in), and there’s probably a few I missed, but it covers both the Soviet and GDR air arms. I also didn’t include trainers like the MiG-29UB. Sure, they’re combat capable, so if you want to include them? The East Germans had 4 29UBs for JG-3 and the Soviet MiG-29s had MiG-23UBs accompany them which also functioned as weather observation aircraft.
This list is meant to provide a snapshot of these forces in the 1980s. Most of the changes happened in 1978-1979. A lot of forces were shifted and transitioned into new aircraft at the time. Where changes happened during the decade, I’ve noted.
SOVIET AIR FORCES
16th Air Army
16th Guards Fighter Aviation Division
31 MiG-29As - 33rd Fighter Aviation Regiment, Wittstock
31 MiG-29As - 787th Fighter Aviation Regiment, Finow
31 MiG-29As - 773rd Fighter Aviation Regiment, Damgarten HQ
126th Fighter Aviation Division
31 MiG-29As - 35th Fighter Aviation Regiment, Zerbst HQ
36 MiG-23MLDs or 12 MiG-23MLDs and 24 MiG-23MLs before 1984 - 833rd Fighter Aviation Regiment, Altes Lager
125th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Division
32 MiG-27Ds - 19th Guards Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment, Larz
39 Su-17M4s - 20th Guards Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment, Groß Dölln (Not on map for some reason or another)
105th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Division
32 MiG-27Ds - 296th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment, Großenhain (Not on map, but would be about 40mi East of Liepzig)
32 MiG-27Ks - 559th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment, Finsterwalde (Not on map, about 30mi Southeast-east of Holzdorf)
29 MiG-27s - 911th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment, Brand (Way off map to the South)
Attached units
20 Su-24MRs - 11th Independent Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment, Welzow (Way off map to the Southeast, near the Polish border.)
11 Mi-8s and other transport craft - 226th Separate Mixed Aviation Regiment, Sperenburg
32 Su-25s and 6 L-39Cs - 357th Separate Assault Aviation Regiment, Brandis (Off map Southeast near Czechslovak border, also deployed to Afganistan from 10-'86 to 11-'87)
32 Su-25s and 4 L-39Cs - 368th Separate Assault Aviation Regiment, Tutow (Was deployed to Bagram from 5-'88 to 2-'89)
9 MiG-25Rs, 3 MiG-25RBs - 931st Independent Guards Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment, Stendal
Misc
2140th Aviation Technical Depot, Strausberg (Just East of Berlin, the actual depot was located near the sharp bend in lake Straussee)
Luftstreitkräfte der Nationalen Volksarmee
1st Air Defense Division
35 MiG-21MFs, 7 MiG-21SPS-Ks - JG-1 “Fritz Schmenkel”, Holzdorf
20 MiG-29As, 12 MiG-21MFs - JG-3 “Vladimir Komarov”, Preschen (Not on map, far East, right on Polish border)
40 MiG-21Ms - JG-7 “Wilhelm Pieck”, Drewitz (Not on map, far East, right on Polish border)
14 MiG-21bis-Lazurs, 20 MiG-21bis-SAUs - JG-8 “Hermann Matern”, Marxwalde (Not on map, directly East of Berlin, maybe 40mi from Strausberg)
3rd Air Defense Division
31 MiG-21Ms, 12 MiG-21SPS-Ks - JG-2 “Yuri Gagarin”, Trollenhagen (Neubrandenburg on map).
10 MiG-23MFs, 20 MiG-23MLs - JG-9 “Heinrich Rau”, Peenemunde
3 L-39ZOs, 2 L-39Vs - ZDK-33, Peenemunde (Target tug and gunnery practice squadron)
Management Group for Frontal Aviation and Transportation (FO FMTFK)
18 MiG-23BNs - JBG-37 “Klement Gottwald”, Drewitz (Not on map, far East, right on Polish border)
22 Su-22M4s - JBG-77 “Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher”, Laage
23 Su-22m4s - MFG-28 “Paul Wieczorek”, Laage (Note that this is a maritime defense squadron)
24 Mi-8s - THG-34 “Werner Seelenbinder”, Briest
11 MiG-21F-13s, then 11 MiG-21Ms in 1985 - TAFS-47, Preschen (Not on map, far East, right on Polish border. Note that this is a tactical reconnaissance squadron)
11 MiG-21Ms - TAFS-87, Drewitz (Not on map, far East, right on Polish border. Note that this is a tactical reconnaissance squadron)
10 An-26STs, 1 An-26M, 1 An-26SM - TS-24, Dresden (Not on map, in the South of the nation. However, they did base at Dessau frequently)
Officers College (OHS)
26 MiG-21SPSs - FG-15 “Heinz Kapelle”, Rothenburg (Off map, Southeast, near DDR-Polish-CSSR border. Noted since these airframes could be used to replinish losses. It also has 15 21U’s, 13 21US’s, and 3 21UMs)
47 L-39ZOs - FG-25 “Leander Ratz”, Dresden (Far South, near CSSR border)
17 Mi-8s - HAG-35 “Lambert Horn”, Briest
MISC
NFG-37 - ATC, Laage
SGVE-77 - Supply Co., Laage
Note: I had to edit the abbreviation for Fliegerausbildungsgeschwader. Otherwise, it’s a very naughty word!
Kudos. That will be an excellent resource MiG21bisFishbedL.
FWIW, I asked ChatGPT to generate a similar ORBAT for NATO. To my first query it listed units without aircraft numbers, so I requested a follow-up prompt for that.
EDIT: Refining the results…
Here is a more detailed squadron-level snapshot of key NATO air assets in West Germany circa 1990 — listing base, unit, aircraft type, and approximate number of aircraft (where available).
(Note: Because exact 1990 counts vary, many figures are estimates derived from late-1980s war-establishment sources; use as indicative rather than absolute.)
| Base | Wing / Squadron | Aircraft Type | Approximate Number |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bitburg AB | 36th Tactical Fighter Wing (36 TFW) | F-15C/D Eagle | ~72 (3 squadrons × ~24) |
| Hahn AB | 50th Tactical Fighter Wing (50 TFW) – includes 10th TFS, 313th TFS, 496th TFS at Hahn (f-16.net) | F-16C/D (Block 25) | ~72 (3 squadrons × ~24) |
| Zweibrücken AB | 26th Tactical Reconnaissance Wing (26 TRW) | RF-4C Phantom II (Recon) | ~22 aircraft (1 squadron) |
| Ramstein / Rhein-Main / other USAF hubs | Various support/command/transport squadrons | C-130 Hercules, C-141, tankers, command aircraft | Several dozen – exact numbers vary (Teknopedia) |
| Base | Squadron | Aircraft Type | Approximate Number |
|---|---|---|---|
| RAF Brüggen | No. 9 Sqn | Tornado GR1 | ~12 (Scribd) |
| RAF Brüggen | No. 14 Sqn | Tornado GR1 | ~12 (Scribd) |
| RAF Brüggen | No. 17 Sqn | Tornado GR1 | ~12 (Scribd) |
| RAF Brüggen | No. 31 Sqn | Tornado GR1 | ~12 (Scribd) |
| RAF Gütersloh | No. 3 Sqn | Harrier GR Mk3/GR5 | ~16 (Scribd) |
| RAF Gütersloh | No. 4 Sqn | Harrier GR Mk3/GR7 | ~16 (Scribd) |
| RAF Gütersloh | No. 18 Sqn | CH-47 Chinook (helicopter) | ~18 (Scribd) |
| RAF Gütersloh | No. 230 Sqn | Puma HC1 (helicopter) | ~16 (Scribd) |
| RAF Wildenrath | No. 19 Sqn | Phantom FGR2 | ~12 (Scribd) |
| RAF Wildenrath | No. 92 Sqn | Phantom FGR2 | ~12 (Scribd) |
| Wing / Base | Unit | Aircraft Type | Approximate Number |
|---|---|---|---|
| JaboG 31 – Nörvenich | 2 squadrons | Tornado IDS | ~36 (2 × ~18) (Scribd) |
| JaboG 36 – Hopsten | 2 squadrons | F-4F Phantom | ~36 (2 × ~18) (Scribd) |
| JaboG 38 – Jever | 1 squadron | Tornado IDS | ~24 (orbat.info) |
| Total Luftwaffe (combat aircraft) | – | Tornado + F-4F + others | ~180 Tornado + ~152 F-4F (fleet-level) (GlobalSecurity) |
If you like, I can convert this into a spreadsheet-style table (Excel or CSV) with all the squadrons listed, base, aircraft type, status (active/inactive), and estimated numbers — and include every known squadron in West Germany in 1990 (not just the major ones). Would you like me to generate that?
Please create an abbreviated order of battle for NATO air assets based in west Germany in 1990.
Sure! Here’s a concise Order of Battle (OOB) for NATO air assets based in West Germany around 1990. At that time, NATO had a strong presence in the region, especially in the context of the Cold War, and the primary air forces were those of the United States, the United Kingdom, and other NATO allies. The primary role was to defend Western Europe against any potential Warsaw Pact aggression.
The U.S. Air Force played a central role in the defense of West Germany, with several major air bases hosting fighter, bomber, reconnaissance, and tanker aircraft.
Ramstein Air Base (Main hub for U.S. Air Force operations)
Spangdahlem Air Base (NATO’s main fighter base in the Eifel region)
Bitburg Air Base (Also part of the U.S. Air Force in Germany, but this base closed in 1994)
Lakenheath (UK-based, but strategically positioned for West Germany defense)
The RAF had several bases in Germany, with their primary assets being the Tornado GR1 bombers, Jaguar strike aircraft, and Phantom FGR2 fighters.
Rhein-Main Air Base (Primary RAF base in West Germany)
Squadrons:
Büchel Air Base (Strategic RAF deployment)
Wildenrath Air Base (RAF forward base for fighter operations)
The German Air Force was heavily integrated into NATO operations, particularly in the context of air defense, with a large fleet of F-4F Phantoms, Tornado IDS, and Mirage aircraft.
Lechfeld Air Base (Southern Germany)
Squadrons:
Memmingen Air Base (Strategic forward air defense base)
Squadrons:
Cochem Air Base (Located near the French border)
Squadrons:
Nörvenich Air Base (Northwest Germany)
Squadrons:
While France was technically a NATO member, it had withdrawn from NATO’s integrated military command in 1966. However, they still cooperated with NATO allies on a bilateral basis. The French forces stationed in West Germany primarily focused on providing air defense and strike capabilities.
Lahr Air Base (Southern Germany, near the Swiss border)
Squadrons:
A number of other NATO countries contributed air forces in West Germany, though their contributions were smaller.
Canadian Air Force (CAF)
Dutch Air Force
Belgian Air Force
Norwegian Air Force
Air Policing: The primary function was to intercept any Warsaw Pact aircraft that violated NATO airspace. This was a central mission for the F-4, F-16, and Mirage squadrons based in West Germany.
Nuclear Deterrence: Several NATO squadrons were tasked with carrying out potential nuclear strike missions (especially with the Tornado GR1 and F-4 Phantom aircraft), equipped with nuclear bombs, to act as a counterbalance to Soviet nuclear threats.
Strategic Bombing: U.S. B-52 Stratofortress bombers, operating out of the U.K., were ready to strike targets deep within the Soviet Union in the event of war.
This is a high-level breakdown of the major NATO air units based in West Germany during the Cold War, specifically in 1990. There were of course many other smaller support units, reconnaissance, and AWACS assets involved, but these were the major contributors to NATO’s air defense and strike capabilities in the region at that time.
Casmo has been quiet lately. But his latest is excellent. He leads a 4-ship to hit a factory. Comms for both strike and CAP are quite good (to my civvy ears anyway). If he keeps this up, I’ll go back to being a patreon supporter.
