I stupidly accepted an “On-Call CAS” mission and took out some friendlies who were within bayonet range of the baddies. Lost all my points and my promotion to Captain. I was in a fairly bad mood the rest of the afternoon. Granted, I was probably in a better mood than the friendlies I struck but, you know, it’s a selfish world we live in.
I now only frag my own CAS missions under the heading “AI”. There are no requirements for AI missions so I use them for everything, including anti-shipping. For BARCAPs I set the patrol time for 00:01 so that we can leave the patrol area without penalty.
On call CAS, the bms pilot logbooks biggest nemesis ; even if you do extremely well it’s never rated as such. Taking a rating hit for the team! next time, vid or let awacs help you declare friendlies on the ground😉
I did an On call CAS a couple of days ago. I checked-in and heard no reply for a while. So I double checked the frequencies and tried again and got nothing. So, I switched back to AWACS and tried to check in there and got no reply. By this time, I had found some bad guys and just called AWACS to declare. They called them boggies and we lit them up; I got 5 out of 6 shots and wingman got the same.
So, I start heading home and a few minutes later I hear AWACS calling out targets for me. So, I figured I’d goofed up yet again. But the debrief was Excellent:
Doesn’t always work unfortunately. If a badguy is in the BRA you’ve locked, there’s a decent chance Gypsy will call bogey even if a good guy is in the same general area. It’s best just to delete the task and frag your own AI on reds who are well away from the front line of fighting.
Having said all that. This thread made me do exactly what I’ve just said I wouldn’t do. I accepted an On Call CAS with a F-18. Wingy and I carried 4 Mav-Ds. FAC made the call. I asked wingy to strike it. He refused. (Sure sign that the target was friendly). I figured what the heck. I unloaded all 4 AGMs on the called position. (They were pointed in the right direction to be bad guys unless we were in retreat.) My wingman still wouldn’t join the fight. The whole way back to the boat I’d figured I would get the dreaded court martial screen. But no, all was well. Four kills. “Average” score. Lesson learned yet again: DON’T ACCEPT ON-CALL CAS FRAGS!
Before IFF was implemented that was the fastest way to find out.
Me: “Two: Attack my Target”
Two: “Negative”
as opposed to:
Me: "AWACS, group bearing blah blah blah, 15 miles, 8 thousand… …Declare!
<in my head: come on, come on, come on…>
AWACS (in slow speech): “Goblin twoooooooooooo, Dragnet onnnnnnnne, contact is friendly!”
Good to know. I’ve never had that happen. Not saying it doesn’t happen, I just haven’t seen it.
I tend to be very meticulous in the mission planning and put steerpoint lines around recon areas of where the good guys are and where the baddies are. And if recon is not showing any baddies, I won’t take the mission.
Anyway, admit it. You know your going to take the next On-Call CAS that comes up. The boys on the ground need you! Their not requesting some random AI pilot. They want you!
Thanks or sharing this vid link Easy and I finally took the time to watch it last night.
I always thought DCS was a study level sim in terms of learning how to operate weapons and the jet, but this takes it to an ENTIRELY different level. It’s like where learning DCS is achieving a high school diploma where BMS is like earning a Masters degree. To say it was a bit daunting would be an understatement.
Great Kinger ; It’s not too bad it you train one feature at the time, it’s the same f16 as we have dcs with more or less the same basic systems, ramp start, ccrp, ccip, lgb and jdam procedures and tactics; air to air parameters will need some readjusting to as amraams and adders have a little more performance but there’'s much overlap.
Yeah the learning one thing at a time is obviously what would make the most sense. Part of the appeal of BMS is that it’s a pretty much “finished” sim as opposed to DCS which is constantly in a state of change at the moment.
I guess what I meant by that is akin to when I came into DCS and started flying the Hog. It’s in a much more “finished” state than the jet I eventually started spending more time in, the F-18. I probably could have stayed in the Hog and continued to learn it at a much more in depth level, but I found that I just enjoyed the act of flying in the 18 more appealing.
There’s an ongoing DCS vs BMS discussion at benchmarksims here. Surprisingly there not a lot of hate. And no surprise either that almost everyone who flies BMS also enjoys DCS.
Seriously. I just read all 12 pages and saw nothing particularly belligerent by Mav or anyone else. In his case, clearly English is not his first language so his soft sarcasm is a little misplaced. But none of it is any worse than what we see daily here at Mudspike. And I think Mudspike is the gaming poster-child of mature behavior. Even the rolleyes emojis!
Working off old memories here - isn’t MavJP the author (or one of the contributing author’s) of the Falcon flight model? I seem to recall that being the case. Which means he probably has a lot of passion invested in Falcon. That doesn’t excuse anything of course, but I’m guessing he might be fairly defensive of his baby. This could all be wrong though…like I said, I am working off very old memories.
…Declare!
