Over clocker noob needs a hand

PS - That was actual footage of my house after the infamous 2014 Shiner Bock Burrito Poker Tournament. I saw my wife starting to light the candle and couldn’t yell STOP in time.

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Really? Told you guys I was a noob at this… :wink:
I just went with the ASUS auto tuner wizard. “Do you play games?” -Yes. “Do you have stock, add-on or water cooling?” -Water. And that’s what it did.

You spelled it wrong man…probably not hip anymore…but it used to be X-Treme. Tack that on the end of your product ten years ago and you were an instant millionaire.

For instance…this stuff in my cabinet…err…I mean, it is an excellent engine degreaser if you mix it with vinegar…yeah…

Glad I found it again…see you on Monday…

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I may have made it sound worse than it is, on water I’ve heard people go up to 1.40V

But it is to be expected that automatic overclock programs use higher voltages than needed. They try to be on the “safe”(stable) site. However, temperatures and power usage are higher with higher Vcore, and lifetime of the chip is shortened.

So don’t panic, but you may want to test stability on lower Vcore.

Do you understand or did I go too fast?

EDIT: Download Intel Burn Test HERE, this seems to be uploaded by AgentGod, who is also known to be the author of the program.

I think I got it…
but what about disabling the turbo function (is it called speedstep?), or doesn’t that matter…?

I have set separate overclocks for 1 and 2 core than 3 and 4 core load in BIOS.
The higher 1/2 core multiplier is usually called Turbo. So by that definition, I do have Turbo.

I also have adaptive voltage enabled, so my CPU changes multipliers and voltages based on load.

Speedstep is off, though, as I think that one degrades performance too much.

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I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but have you tried Asus’ AI Suite? It came bundled with my Asus mobo and has an excellent auto overclocking module (called Evo-something?). You just choose normal or extreme and the system iterates over cpu multiplier and base clock speed to find the max stable settings, then updates the bios.

PS: I am still running an i5 2500k but at 4.6GHz (up from 3.3GHz) with no loss of stability. I didn’t see the point in upgrading it with this kind of performance.

No I haven’t… I used the AI tweaker, or what’s it’s called in the BIOS.

I have tried logging CPU temps and usage from Core Temp, while flying DCS, and it looks like the CPU couldn’t be bothered with the load… I barely breaks a sweat.

@fearlessfrog
I have tested DCS with the new CPU speed, and I must say everything seems to work great.
I have attached a log file.
I wonder if the values are real, though. CPU temp barely over 60 deg. Celsius and the load is very low…

The clock speed seems stable just under 4600MHz. Would there be any benefit in turning speedstep off?

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That seems about right I think, as for a gaming stress test like using DCS the individual cores aren’t all used so the heat doesn’t really build up that much. A 4.5 GHz automatic overclock on an i7 at 60 deg under load is a decent result, which means your CPU was in a ‘good batch’ so to speak.

A sythentic benchmark, like Prime95 here:

…is often used to really test long-term stability, as even on a ‘Blended’ test (one of Prime95’s modes) it will work the CPU very hard and you’ll see your absolute max stable overclock temperature. You’d run that for a soak test of initially about 15 minutes, but don’t be surprised to see your temperatures shoot up to the 80C+ odd mark. Windows can often blue screen as well if TDP shutdown is reached. As it is a synthetic test it is a ‘worse case’ scenario but is useful for the next bit, which is your cooling profiles.

If you have any included fan software that came with the ASUS motherboard (I think it does though?) then it’ll be good to see how that works as well. If you don’t have anything then personally I use SpeedFan, but it is very unfriendly to use (and worth another post of its own).

This will allow you to set a ratio between how noisy you want the fans to be versus how much cooling kicks in and when. For me personally, I think your H100i should always have a maximum pump speed running i.e. 100%, as a lot of people put the power to something like SYS1 and then forget that the pump speed will actually slow down with temperature due to the motherboard automatic fan control and pumps are usually silent anyway. It is better to have that liquid flowing at full speed for dissapation. The cooling fans around the radiator I usually set to a gradient of something like 30C = 20%, 40C = 40%, 50C = 60% or whatever your comfort level is for noise. I personally often use headphones so will put a pretty steep ratio.

Only other thing is you should have a quick read of a backup plan of what to do if your PC doesn’t POST startup. I don’t want to be overdramatic but it is one of those things that’s better to have read about before you need it rather than after. :slight_smile: The steps are usually just letting the CPU cool down for 10 minutes (I recommend tea, for me, not the CPU) and the liquid in the sealed watercooler units will take a while, and then use your motherboard manual (that you have offline somewhere, like on an iPad) to identify where the CMOS battery is and the J jumper CMOS reset values are. This allows you to reset back to factory defaults on the motherboard as a worse case scenario. In the 10 years of doing mild overclocks I’ve only needed that once, and that was when I did a typo on a very old BIOS and tried to put 13 volts from through a chip rather than 1.3v. Everything was fine, but I did have to reset CMOS values. Thankfully modern stuff is much more foolproof. :slight_smile:

PS Apologies in advance for any elvish, I’m eating muffins :slight_smile:

Oh, for speedstep. Unless you want to go higher than you are now then I would leave it enabled as it does at least save a polar bear in terms of power. It does cause system instability due to the a variance in VDrop it causes, and is something to turn off if you can’t stable Prime95, but unless it is an issue then leave it on at first. If you wanted to push 5 GHz then we’d have to do manual values and the Intel ‘helpers’ are all best off for sure.

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“Speak Friend, and enter”
“Mellon!”

Now, picturing Liv Tyler, eating muffins, is a fetish in it’s own right…

Aaaanyway… I think I’m quite happy with the performance of this little square heap of silicon. I’ll just leave it as is.

Now, bring on those 1080 ti:s.

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This topic has been very enlightening for me!