The Moza AB9 feels more accurate because there is much greater throw. Also, there is no centering spring, so you can be very precise with your inputs. You can have centering force applied through the stick’s software, but that is completely adjustable. Of course, when the stick starts jiggling about with the FFB effects, you could argue it becomes less accurate. Even though I think there is still a lot of work to be done by Moza on the software front, I love it so far. In MSFS for example, using the C172 profile, the weight of the elevator is simulated, so sat on the ramp, the stick settles at fully forward. As you accelerate down the runway, the elevator becomes affected by the airflow and the stick comes back to center.
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You are selling the thing to me. though I wouldn’t make much use of the greater throw angle, as I use it centermounted with a long extension. How is gunnery?
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That was IMO the first good one. And no, they don’t wear out. If not for the serial port connection mine would still be usable. My CH FS USB is still in use. A tiny bit of ‘noise’ at center but the dead zone setting fixes that.
Can you do that ‘helicopter thing’ where it will stay put where you left it? That’s what I want as I’m not coordinated enough for the workaround with a spring-centered stick.
I have not used mine (waiting on a base) but I believe that is what it will do. Once you trim, it will stay put. @PaulRix can confirm?
I am not happy that WinWing wants more money for cams and dampers. Since I have taken out my Virpil T-50 CM2, I am going to put in the No Center Cams and Soft Springs tonight and I will report how the whirly bird behaves itself.
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I haven’t tried flying a helicopter with it in DCS yet, but I’m pretty sure that the answer is yes. With MSFS the stick just stays where you put it without needing to use any kind of trim. It is a very different experience than flying with a spring centered stick.
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Helo flying is what most people consider the raison d’etre for FFB sticks. For me it’s that and the thing with the elevator Paul described. Paul, how does diving a MiG-15 in DCS feel? Would you try that for me?
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Will do. I’ll fire up DCS later this evening and give the MiG 15 a spin. 
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@schurem So, I flew the Mig15 this evening. There is no tailored profile in the Moza software for the 15, so I used the F14 one, which isn’t ideal. If you are willing to put in the time, you can create your own profiles though. The F14 profile gave me some nice effects when rolling down the runway. Stall buffet was present at high AoA and the controls noticeably stiffen with airspeed. The cannons give a satisfying thump thump thump and you can tell the difference between 37mm and the 23mm(?). You also get effects when the flaps and gear are in motion. It’s not perfect, but I’m sure that with some effort, I could put a half decent profile together.
Before you pull the trigger though, please bear in mind that I tend to enjoy the good aspects and live with or tune out the less than great. I would look at some of the YouTube reviews. Some are enthusiastic, while others not so much.
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My guess is it takes a solid connection to your desk/floor?
The base does need a good mounting solution of some kind. It is too big to use having it sat on your desk. The base does come with non slip pads, so I guess they think it could be sat on a small platform of some type (side table?) without being secured, but I would recommend finding some way to properly mount it.
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Glue it!
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Wow they are just giving it away in Canada??
Gulp 
MOZA AB9 FFB Base - Canada Computers & Electronics
I’m going to have to go back to Work (sorry for the 4 letter word)
Is that what they are charging if you order directly from Moza?
Moza $549.00 USD = $748.74 CAD today + S&H
Which they would not show me till I entered my credit card #
Ouch! 
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