787 crash - Air India flight 171

some of the bus drivers I know, have told me there are three cameras on them whenever the bus is working, there is one looking over their shoulder foward, one at the bus steering wheel and another looking at the pedals

I think our trains also have a drivers cab camera looking at the controls

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If I were flying single pilot, the camera wouldn’t bother me. Rather, it is the very dangerous, ever-felt presence in a crew environment that me and my fellow pilots would strike over. Its insidious influence would make flying far less safe. Anyway, I know enough to know that it is not something I need to worry about, no matter how much support it might have outside the cockpit.

Not with the intention to agitate but merely out of curiosity, what would be so different about cameras in the cockpit compared to black boxes recording every breath and manipulation in the cockpit? Assuming the footage would only be viewed in the event of a serious incident or crash. I do find myself in agreement that I don’t think it would add much other than finding out who did what manipulation. Currently, I find myself believing this was a terrible mistake considering the mayday call and the attempt to rectify the situation. It feels very different compared to the intentional suicide crash that was flight 4U92525 from a decade ago. However I am nothing more than a desktop pilot and occasional rear-seat pax so I cannot form a valuable opinion on this.

God that article has some awful writing. First they say this:

ā€œThere was an ANA flight in 2019 in which the 787 aircraft did this itself, while the flight was on final approach.

Then this:

Both engines flamed out immediately after the pilot deployed the thrust reversers for landing.

I expect an aviation expert to know which phases of flight thrust reversers are used…at the same time, journalists’ command of the English language has dropped off a cliff since 2008 or so, so it could go either way I guess.

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My only question, is the computer knows the aircraft’s configuration,

So why isn’t there an audible alarm and such for fuel supply being cut off?

I’m afraid it’s that bad…! :wink:

But yeah, the aviation experts claims doesn’t hold water, if you try to find some more info about the ANA 787 incident. The TCMS system didn’t think the aircraft was on ground, it was on ground…

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It was all downhill after I retired from writing… :rofl:

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Not when the pilots do the cutting off. There is no need to warn pilots of something they already know about. I think people exaggerate in their imaginations the level of automation in even the latest airliners. Airliner flight deck design is far more conservative than, say, that of corporate jets. Crews move regularly between the jets in their fleets (including Boeing, Airbus and Embraer). So, wild differences between types becomes a training liability.

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The 787 shares a type commonality with the 777 for a lot of airliners so whilst they do have their own quirks and differences it is easy to transfer between both.

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Boeing tried to convince the FAA that they should share a common type rating. The FAA called bs.

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Rightfully so. They are inherently different aircraft, no matter how much you try and make the flight deck look alike.