Airbus appreciation thread

This thread will be about some sort of revelation to me.

As a primer, I play around with flight sims since the 90s. I flew mostly fighters. From a SPAD XII to a Zorgon Peterson Fer-de-Lance, if it was fast, nimble and made “pew pew”, I had fun with it. I never was interested in airliners.

Something changed recently. It might have been my experiences with the previous two Mudspike Christmas Flights. Or the fact that I’m getting more settled on the backstraight of my 40s. Whatever it was, I decided to dig deeper into learning about civil aviation.

I dabbled in general aviation aircraft occasionally in the past 3 decades. I am quite familiar with steam gauge Cessnas, as this is close to what I know from fighters - only much slower. For our flight to Norway, I finally installed MSFS2020. I opted for an VFR trip and removed the GPS from my DHC-2 Beaver. Screens in aircraft kind of overwhelm me. I hate the menu diving. After the usual intial struggle with the simulator it all worked out. I had no issues with the aircraft and enjoyed the trip up north.

For the next Christmas Flight destination I realized, VFR won’t cut it. I wouldn’t have enough time to put in that many legs. As I looked for faster options, I selected the CJ4 business jet, mainly for her sleek lines and high cruising speed. I had to learn her Rockwell avionics suite though. And you know what? It wasn’t that bad. In fact, I found it rather clever. I learned about proper flight plans (for simulation purposes anyway) with Little Navmap. I studied stuff like SID, STAR and approach procedures. It seems like Asobo has integrated the Working Title mod for the CJ4 into the main game. The simulation depth was impressive. I finally understood how much of a game changer the introduction of FMS and advanced auto pilots was for flying. I’m kind of surprised how little of this can be seen in military jets like the Hornet or Viper with their crude AP modes.

Anyway I was kind of hooked and wanted to go bigger. Before going on a shopping spree, I thought why not first try the default aircraft from Asobo. After all, my experience with the CJ4 was quite good.

It turns out that for one of the many A320 version that ship with MSFS2020, Asobo has integrated the iniBuilds A320neo. So I planned to first try this before digging deeper into more complex mods, like the free FlyByWire A32x or even the Fenix payware.

This was 2 weeks ago and I’m still learning about the default iniBuilds A320. I’m impressed and think I can sink many dozens of hours before I’m bored. In fact I can’t even comprehend what those other products can even do better.

I found a very good Youtube channel by a real life Airbus pilot who explains all the systems in great details. His 17 part tutorial series takes you from a cold and dark state and puts you systematically through all flight phases. I can highly recommend:

He’s using the Fenix mod and some more payware addons. Still you can find most of these features in Asobo’s ‘base’ model and try it on your own.

I can’t recall how many times I said “Boy, that’s really smart”. The whole workflow and user interface shows how much thought the Airbus engineers put into designing their aircraft. The whole learning journey helped me to appreciate the well oiled machine that is modern aviation. There are so many things that work together in harmony. Be it the people (crew and cabin, technicans on the ground, ATC, logistics), procedures to handle the chaos or technology that supports all that.

I was wrong with my assumption, that airliners are boring and I’m glad I challenged my self to at least try it out myself.

If there’s one takeaway from my long winded ramblings it is that we’re really living in an amazing simulation era. Simulators on PC have come so far and give you so many insights into an alternate reality.

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Nice write-up miRage. I’m on a similar Boeing journey, albeit always on a parallel “master of none” path with DCS. There’s too much going on there to ignore with the Chinook, Herc, and Little Bird!

Agree, I really enjoy watching (a330 driver) Emmanuel’s videos, who has a really logical and pragmatic approach to his presentations. Also, check out those from V1-Simulations. V1 has a huge amount of Airbus content, but who recently changed equipment to the 737 in his real life job. He’s been working through Boeing systems as his preps for training and check rides.

Both of them stream often and can cover Airbus and Boeing amazingly well. As you probably know, a330 driver is a tech advisor for PMDG. But he is pretty forthcoming about its strengths and weaknesses.

If you like the iniBuilds A320, take a look at the FlyByWire A32NX. Also freeware, amazingly enough. I started with the iniBuilds, but switched to the FBW A320, because iniBuilds is one of the few aircraft that can’t display on the WinWing MCDU, a peripheral that I highly recommend.

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It’s nothing short of incredible…

Since it’s an Airbus appreciation thread, this was my venture into Airliners, in my Amiga days.

Gfx wasn’t much to write home about, but it had real Jeppesen charts! It was all about navigating from here to there, get on the approach and land.
I was so intrigued by the fact that you could find your way on instruments…

Oh, and just listen to tha music..!

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I have to say that, if you like the Bus, then the Fenix version is worth the money.

I’ve played some of the other iterations of the 320 in MSFS and they are impressive. But the Fenix smoothes over some of the gaps in the other two and it just all works more holistically…as you’ve pointed out that it should.

It does require some horsepower to run and it is not without a few speed bumps, just to be fair.

But, I bought the Fenix when I was going to real 320 school and I’ve used it for every recurrent and upgrade since then and there were surprisingly few times I had to say, “OK, this is an MSFSism and I need to remember not to do this in the sim.”

Also, having also spent my time in the 73, I still think it was a fine plane and, looking back, I think I could land it more consistently (for the good…that seems important to point out😉) than the Bus. Especially if you fly more than one 320 model.

But, perhaps the fault lies not in our jets, but in ourselves. :thinking:

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That’s interesting. I found the old -300 and -500s very easy to land. The NGs, especially the -900, were harder. The worst is the 767-400 (which I flew today actually). I only flew the 320 and found it to be about average. Usually I did OK. But if I was tired or the fates had it out for me…BAM! The Airbus flight deck and FMC logic are superior and very much worth an appreciation thread. Boeings? The logic is functional if a bit clunky. But they inspire a deeper love. (A totally unscientific impression on my part.)

Slightly unrelated. I’ve always hated the look of the 380. And my prejudice gave me the assumption that it flies like a turd. But I’ve flown with several pilots who had stints at Emirates. They had this to say:

“The 380 is like a ■■■■■■. Ugly on the outside. Delightful on the inside.”

(OK really Mudspike!? VA-Gi-NA is unacceptable? Every one of us made it through 8th grade where we learned that word from a teacher. Heck, Saudi kids probably learn it. But Mudspike does this? ■■■■■■. Facepalm!)

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It’s a standard watched word list.
But your need to compare aircraft to female genitalia opens up a lot of questions. You want to talk about it? :wink:

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(Sorry @smokinhole :D)

Thanks for your insights.

I will first try to make sure I understand all the systems modeled by the default v2 neo before I will venture in installing any addons.

After some more time in the airliner I reckon it is mandatory to understand how the bus will work. While it supports you when you doing the things you’re supposed to do right up to the edge of boredom, I learned it will bite you in the arse if you try something unusual.

Still much to learn.

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Yes, I’m sorry, I can speak a bit circularly. :slightly_smiling_face:

I flew the 200 one place, and the 300, 500, and 700 at another. My experience was like yours, I thought it flew very honestly.

The 700 was the longest I flew, so I could see where the stretch models were more finicky, like the 321.

And the Bus was just as you said, beautiful one landing, a box of rocks on the next!:joy:

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I’m game. Do YOU want to talk about it? :winking_face_with_tongue:

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A friend of my brother has flown just about everything in the QANTAS inventory except the 747-400. Started on a Dash-8 and although he still counts the highlight of his career as hand flying the 747SP into Tokyo he raves about the A380 - in his words “the best aircraft I have ever flown”. He has just gone back to an A320 because the captains chair was too good an opportunity to pass up.

As an armchair pilot I have found the Toliss A340 (X-Plane 12) easy to learn and easy to fly… A lot easier than the G550 I flew for this years Xmas flight.

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The, ah, 380, is an acquired taste.

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Is this your typical pilot pub experience? And you people enjoy this, yes?

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No, not really… We mostly just listen to ourselves talk and only occasionally listen to others although that’s not a requirement.

PILOT: P ermanently I n L ove with O wn T alking

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Yes. Immensely.

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I’ll just leave this here…

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:laughing:

Totally not true… :wink:

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