Great news!
I am way more excited about those doorgunners, the Mi-8 is a flying tank already that can now shoot in all directions.
Kord for the win!
Love this little metal fan! Some sort of miniature Hindā¦
So, I tried flying the hip in earnest today. These new pedals sure do help, as does having the stick centermounted and extended by 10cm. Unlike last time I tried, it looked like I was actually in control of the machine!
Perhaps by the time the hind rolls around Iāll be proficient at hipping it up and ready to get my гоŃŃŃŠ½ on.
Still managed to fool up landing of course, getting it right where you want it is not easy, sheās a big girl with quite some momentum.
Anyway, I wanted to ask you more experienced hipsters about the sounds Iām hearing. When āpulling alphaā it starts making a flapping noise. The Huey does this also.
But what is this rattling sound I hear when slowing down? The collective is lowered and Iām slightly pulling on the cyclic. Is this an indication of impending vortex ring state? Is it just the cabin fixtures reacting to q certain harmonic of all the moving parts vibrating?
Anybody got a school bus or learner driver skin for this?
Impending VRS doesnāt make and specific Sound, IIRCā¦
What I can tell you for sure is that a lot of people confuse loss of translational lift for VRS.
I know I did.s
The key to landing any new helicopter is to pass through translation as slowly as possible and in ground effect. Be at 60 kph and put the FARP āTā midway up the windscreen. Keep a nice smooth descent, without decelerating, down to 5 meters. Lower the collective ever so slightly and raise the cyclic to keep the 5 m height. When you pass through ETL there will be some vibration, collective and left pedal required. The slower your passage through ETL, the easier it will be to time pedal and collective. Save the swooping quick-stops and tactical approaches for when youāve get the slow, airplane-like approach mastered. Itās been years since I have encountered VRS in DCS or X-plane.
What @smokinhole says.
Even when you do get better, a slow transition is not overly cautious: the slow reaction time of the Mi-8ās turbines means you have to anticipate the loss of ETL and raise the collective before you start to drop if you slow down too fast.
When I flew Mi-8 with the 229th virtual squadron, we flew a lot of formations and no matter your skill level, you approach the LZ as if you are a STOL airplane (fixed glideslope, slow transition out of ETL) or the formation will suffer. Good flight leads were picked on the ability to fly a fixed glideslope and a slow transition.
Having said that, we usually did not have the luxury of transitioning in ground effect due to trees and other obstacles.
Of course, I occasionally did try a reckless approach when flying solo, but even with quite some experience, it tends to go wrong far too often when not all the parameters are what youāre used to: density altitude, wind speed and relative direction, temperature, helicopter weight.
The thing is quite agile and nimble in the air I find, I can throw it around with wild abandon, but in landing⦠whoa. I have pranged six today, and made two good landings. Indeed the very slow ones. Is there a special trick to slowing down?
Try something like the following:
- Decrease collective
- Input left rudder to compensate for swing
- Raise the nose to stay level (i.e. input back cyclic)
- When the chopper slows down, pay attention to the shakes and noises
- When the shaking gets profound lower the nose, increase collective, input right rudder & cyclic
- Gradually add collective & right rudder, keep the thing level with the cyclic
- End up hovering with lots of right rudder, with the cyclic to the right and back (somewhat)
When hovering, keep your vertical speed above -2 m/s in order to avoid VRS.
yes! getting the hang of this:
Get the stash Ahmed!
Stopping at the 7-11 for a bag of crisps and a coke
Yo Said, you playinā today! come on out!
Sure I can land at the proper spot too Sir, if you want to.
And thatās when I got in a settling-with-power state and didnāt manage to slide out of it in time.
Lovinā this chopperinā thing!
So then I went out to the DCS site to get me some skins, found a set of Mudspike Air Delivery skins! sweet! they go in /liveries/M-8TV2 right? Canāt get them to show up they go in /liveries/Mi-8MT/ . huh. Guess it aint V2 then
I got this one to show:
But this one is bugged all to heck.
Which is sad, as I like the look of that one better by the screenies⦠Perhaps the author User might want to fix it ? pretty please with sugar on top? Huh. Deleted it then redownloaded and now itās fine. Yay!
You are doing it all wrong, lol
This lady was never meant to hover⦠fly her like a plane, she has undercarriage