The great fortune is that the wings came off. Fuel and fire stayed mostly with the wings.
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Your wording reminds me of this…
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Related issue:
We have a traffic circle near where I live. It’s the only one in the county. Despite the fact that in the Villages there are dozens of these things and 80+ yr old drivers use them every day without accidents, the one HERE is constantly causing issues.
So people complain about all the accidents at it and say it’s dangerous. HOWEVER compared to a standard intersection these accidents have had zero fatalities and zero cars totaled. They’re all “fender benders”.
The main problem, of course, is people don’t want to treat the circle like you would treat an intersection.
Do you make a left from the right lane? No? Then what makes you think if you’re on the OUTSIDE of the circle you can go 3/4 around? People do it ALL THE TIME here. Signs clearly show left lane for straight and left, right lane for straight and right…so 1/3 of the drivers do a left from the right lane because the majority of traffic is switching from south to east there. If all the cars got in the left lane like they should, the line in that lane really backs up at times. So since people don’t want to wait, especially when we have people who sit at the circle and wait for NO cars to be coming to pull in, they make lefts from the right lane, hitting the passenger door of the car on the inside lane trying to go straight/south.
So, are there a lot of accidents? Yeah. But they are less costly and less deadly than a regular intersection where people run lights of misjudge timing.
If the majority of plane incidents have no fatalities, that is GOOD. Eliminating 100% is not realistic, but deescalating the danger in them is an achievable goal.
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Roundabouts/traffic circles are more efficient than a 4 way stop, so long as drivers know how to use them. Another problem I have seen is with road design. In my town we have a roundabout, and the next intersection is controlled with a traffic light. It’s a mess during busy hours because the traffic backs up from the light into the roundabout. The best solution would have been to have two roundabouts which would have kept the traffic flowing much better. Still, it is good to see that roundabouts are being slowly adopted in the US. We just need to educate drivers how to use them properly, and use their indicators when exiting would help a lot too. For some reason, blinker juice’ seems to be in short supply here. 
Yes that is exactly the issue with this one. To the east and north are lights within maybe 1000ft?
Now most of the traffic from the east make a right to go north, so it’s not too much trouble for them, although the south and westbound ones can still clog. But the traffic coming from the north is 90% headed east, and during busy times can almost back up from the light into the circle!
Uhm, roundabout’s are an invention of the devil. They have no place in the civilized world.
Wheels
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Looks like a scene from The Fall Guy. 
OMG. I didn’t think anyone outside of Australia (or New Zealand… John Clarke was a Kiwi) knew about these two.
They were ‘required watching’ in this household. The way they skewered the political events of the week with 5 minutes of biting satire was brilliant to behold.
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You would hate Canberra, 99% of 4-way intersections have them instead of lights.
The main advantage with them is that traffic tends to flow better. Less stop/start and traffic moving like a caterpillar.
But then again it is Canberra, and
so maybe you are right?
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As always, Juan Browne does a great job breaking down the available data and helps us understand how/why this happened. In particular, he does a fantastic job keeping it simple for the non-pilots.
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I feel attacked…
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Not sure if make a new thread or posting it here but…
There has been more airplane crash, small planes apparently.
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Yeah, it’s not that uncommon, unfortunately.
ASN lists 22 substantial damage or write offs, so far this year. And several unknowns on top of that.
And if you filter in all the smaller ones, it’s a lot more.
This from CNN.com today:
It appears that last month there was a record low number of airplane accidents nationwide, when combining private and commercial airline flights. Most of the 62 total airplane accidents were on private flights, and that total number was 18 less than the 80 recorded in January 2024.
In fact, if the preliminary numbers hold, January 2025 will surpass the previous record for the lowest number of total accidents, with eight fewer than the prior record low of 70 from January 2012.
I stick to what I theorized a few posts up. We’re all sensitive to these things. And because our little fingers are more apt to click on things that appeal to our sensitive brains, ever-observant news sources are giving us what they think we’ll view so that they can sell us more crap.
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And it matters where the accidents occur too. If there’s pics or video, it will get more news coverage.
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Yeah, not the thread for that. My bad
Delta is offering $30,000 to each passenger onboard the plane that flipped on the runway in Toronto, the airline confirmed to ABC. Delta Care Team representatives are telling customers the gesture has no strings attached and does not affect rights.
Read more: Delta plane crash latest: 'Extreme conditions' at Toronto airport in days before crash - ABC News
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Only $30K? You could probably get that from getting rear-ended, and having a good, smuck lawyer here in the States.
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