Not to be contrarian, but you should be able to select which sound card to use in sound module without using VM. VM is fine, but adds some lag in the effects; I’m no longer using it with my setup. I had to install ASIO4ALL, but that was only for 5.1 effects (multiple channels), should work fine without it.
I think the problem is simply order of operations; sound module must be launched after any change in default audio device (such as when launching WMR), or else sound module stops working.
If I’m wrong, I apologize, but that’s how my software seems to work. I’m far from an expert though, this stuffs way above my head.
I don’t think you want to do that, as then the headset audio device won’t even show up, at least that’s how my G2 reacts when I switch that setting off.
I have it set to auto-switch in WMR. Knock on wood it’s always worked; plug headset in/turn on and it switches. Goes from monitor speak or stereo headphones to the VR. Same with mic.
Well I am always into learning some new tricks. If you could can you please post a writeup of what you do to get it working.
I just tried it without using Voicemeeter and had no effect in my Buttkicker. I am guessing I need to use Asio and select the sound card there to et the buttkicker working.
EDIT: I tried it using the Asio driver and still had no effects in the Buttkicker… it works while not ingame and just using the test feature on the SimShaker but once ingame no buttkicker effects.
I also found a 1/2" rubber mat for my Chair gonna try and pick it up today if I can …
I use a USB headset dongle that came with a pair of Logitechs that I no longer use. You can find USB headphone dongles for cheap, maybe $5 - $20. Just plug your BK in the USB, select it via haptic feedback software of choice, done!
Sorry, I meant to answer but got really busy this week. No, I’m not using an actual Buttkicker brand, but my understanding is that they work exactly like any other transducer, using sound output for their signal.
ok I deleted my post as to not clogg this thread with my issue. I made a new post if you want to come over and add any info… I added your post from the thread you linked here so I can see what you did thank you…
The Buttkicker is an awesome addition, IMHO. I have a Secret Labs Titan (at its lowest point) as well and did have to adjust the height. It took a little to get accustomed to the adjustment. I was impacted most when setting up my wheel for racing. I attempted to remove the plastic cover on the center post, but my chair is in there and won’t budge (I really don’t want to cut it). I’m on the short side, so the extra height is acceptable but not optimal. I may ultimately build a base for my pedals so I can have a better feel while sitting in my setup.
Still, at the end of the day, I love my Buttkicker (I have the older model).
Interesting aside: My eldest son has a Woojer vest and I had the opportunity to try it with the kicker. Flying with both was over the top! OMG. I decided not to get one because I don’t want to have to strap it on every time I want to go flying. Then again, that could be part of the immersion for some. lol.
Raising the pedals would be a good solution… I’m going to see if I can get used to flying with the seat raised. I might take the plunge and cut those plastic covers off of the seat pillar. You can’t really see them from most angles…
Well, the line has been refreshed, so the Gamer Plus and Gamer Pro are the two options. I went with the Plus. The Pro is a bit bigger and from what I read, designed with cockpit setups whereas the Plus is a good size for office chairs (which is what I use).
Ah, so the Gamer 2 (spotted in on Amazon for 200 bucks) is the older model then?
It seems to have the same specs as the plus.
Edit: Ok yeah it seems that really is the older model. Got confused there for a while.
Still considering buying it, as I can order it from Aerosoft right now. No clue when the new one will be available and I certainly don’t want to pay shipping from the US if possible.
I also read that some people replaced the amp by some standard 60 bucks subwoofer amp to improve results.
…might be worth a try, I really feel the itch to try it and so far I could not find anything about why the new one is better except “the amp has a display”.
From my experience over the last few years, yes, that should be plenty. I think there’s a ‘window’ here, and of course personal taste comes into play, but if too small you don’t get enough ‘kick’. Too big and you’re probably going to annoy someone else in the house (or below you!).
Looking at the specs for pistion/puck weight/mass:
Mini LFE (what I have): Piston Weight 2 lbs / 0.91 kg
LFE = Piston Weight: 3.75 lbs / 1.48 kg!!! (just for comparison)
BK Gamer 2: Piston Weight 6 oz (0.37 lbs)
I have the LFE Mini + another brand at about .25 pounds, totalling ~2.25 lbs.
It’s more than enough for my office chair.
The little ones from other brands, though I suppose it varies by brand (diff. tech) buzzed more than kicked. There’s so much variation here. For stall and “G” effects more mass seems better. Up to a point.
The BK Gamers are at the end of an arm which likely helps.
It’s amazing how used to it all I’ve gotten: the ‘thunk’ I get for gear up/down; that extra vibration when the speed brake goes out; bombs falling off; guns (GUNS!) of course. No way I’m going without this stuff anymore. Esp. in VR.
EDIT: Oh, forgot…if the puck is too small, for how you ‘play’ (settings), then the Mini LFE can over-heat and freeze up (I guess it expands or something; turning it off/on resets it and is necessary).
That’s why I think going a little bigger may be better: you don’t have to drive it so hard to get you ‘kicks’ (couldn’t resist). This of course assumes you are outputting a signal constantly, like for the engine(s). I don’t use engine rumble because I want to feel the slightest changes in “G”. But I only do jets. So if I’m not pulling on the pole (or flaps moving, firing guns, etc) I don’t feel anything.
I too tend to run the engine effects a little lower (8-12 depending), favoring the G’s and what not being well defined.
If you have two amps, you might as well run the buttkickers in stereo, it’s pretty awesome when landing, or if an engine compressor stalls (Tomcat A, I’m looking at you!).
Yes, I have mine hooked up. I think it is a nice addition to my setup. The effects are a bit more subtle than I thought they would be. If I turn up the amp volume to where it feels as I expected, the shaker gets hot and eventually shuts down. Now, with it tuned in at a more subtle level it is still great. I think the design of the chair has a lot to do with how well the vibrations are transmitted to the seat. I also haven’t had a lot of time to fine tune things…work has been pretty crazy here of late.