Bruh! We have A-4 for that!
I for one can’t wait to see the Mudspike article about the Christen Eagle that I hope our friend @smokinhole will write for us.
The plane is reasonable close to the Pitts he is proficient with (and didn’t he even mention that he has flown a real CE as well?).
I bet there will be some great insights on how far the guys have come with coding their flight models.
Normal flight models are already hard enough to get right, I am really curious if they can nail all the weird stuff an aerobatic plane can do.
Thanks for the support. I am on the fence. It’s one thing to trash the Gazelle. I hated it. But despite myself I must have sunk 100+ hours trying to convince myself it was right. The Christen, on the other hand, is a plane I am familiar with. It is a tame version of the plane I “live” with. I don’t want to sink a bunch of time sending bug reports, apparently making an a** myself, only to be told that I haven’t a clue what I am talking about. Easier to fly the F-18 where I will never know any better. Anyway, there is a video of a takeoff roll posted on DCS that gives me serious doubts. I am going to wait until I see some knowledgeable feedback before I commit another $30.
You are an a** and you don’t know what you are talking about.
There, now that’s out of the way, pretty please give it a whirl? The product relies on experts like yourself to improve and only 75% of the community is so obnoxious. 25% is a lot of nice people who’s simming life you would help make better!
I’m thoroughly convinced that any and all DCS modules would be tame versions of the real thing to anyone who had logged flight hours in one.
I imagine my sofa is a far more comfortable chair than a Martin Baker ejection seat lol!
I keep hitting the wrong tone on Mudspike! I don’t know why it is that when I write now I now come across as arrogant and professorial. At home I am a pretty self-effacing guy…really! The tone I wanted to strike with the post was not, “I have the knowledge and it is doubtful there model could rise to my invaluable experience.” What I wanted to say was that I need to protect myself from myself. I have already planned the article I wanted to write about the Eagle. And I wanted to base it on an early pilot report which flew it through a difficult (to me) Advanced sequence. The article was a reprint from the early eighties. I read it a couple of years ago and enjoyed it enough that I spent a day attempting the sequence in my Pitts. I was unsuccessful at flying it clean even though the S1-S outperforms the Eagle 2 by a small margin. It was me, not the Pitts that was the problem. I’d like to think that I could manage it now. So I spent an hour searching unsuccessfully for the article because without it, I don’t have the sequence and the very detailed challenges the writer faced when flying it. So you see? I have already invested time in the model and I haven’t even bought it yet. I even planned a location for a practice box in the Caucuses and an appropriate camera position for the accompanying video. I see nothing but trouble. If the model is perfect, I STILL may not be able to fly the full sequence. And if the model is flawed, I will spiral down the rabbit hole I described above.
Oh! This makes total sense now- those rabbit holes can get dangerous.
And I think I can speak for most of of us here that I’ve never read any arrogance or superiority into your posts- just passionate interest and a desire for realism based on your “day job.”
Stupid internet, making it difficult to interpret meaning or intent from only text.
If you do decide to revisit this one later, I for one would be interested to hear your thoughts, even if it’s just based on video reviews from the usual streamers.
You don’t come across like that @smokinhole. You have real-world experience and we are all just keen to hear your thoughts just as a fun way to chat about a hobby. Text is a weird medium, and pretty ‘lossy’ in transferring what people are feeling when they write stuff and lossy when interpreting stuff when it is read. If we were at a bar it would be fine and much easier.
I am not sure that I improve with alcohol
Agree with the guys above. Everything is fine.
My suggestion would perhaps be: wait a bit. Let them release the plane and fix the first bugs, then look at the videos and see if you feel the itch.
If you do: fly it a bit, but only write something if you feel comfortable about it. Then release what you wrote, but only if you feel comfortable about that, too.
It is a simulated plane, have fun!
And yeah there is no pressure on you, we would be happy to read it, but we can all survive happily without a review as well, especially if it would make you uncomfortable.
I agree. I’ve never found @smokinhole as coming across as anything other than knowledgeable and perceptive in his observations. I really would enjoy reading his thoughts on the module. If you haven’t purchased it yet, I’d be happy to buy you a copy of it in return for a review ( - see that…bribery!)
Throughout my time in this hobby I’ve had occasion to come across some sim offerings that I’m intimately familiar with in real life. I guess the most recent example is the Citation II by Carenado. I was disappointed in what I thought were easy things to get right with regards to systems, but in the end I grudgingly like it because it kinda sorta feels good mostly because of the familiarity with it. Fortunately, Citations and King Airs don’t have bleeding edge maneuverability, so the normal envelope in fight sims gets it pretty close.
An aerobatic plane is probably way more easy to pick at and find errors because almost no sim does edge of controllability (is that spelled right?) very well. I haven’t bought the CE yet, as I’ve got enough on my plate right now.
I’ve actually been pretty pleased by the Yak-52, so I’ll probably get the Christen Eagle in a month or two. It’s not as expensive as other modules which helps in a big way.
Never got that impression of you,All Good Sir,Carry On!!!
Aw you guys! No bribery needed @BeachAV8R, I’ll get it. But first I need to get more acquainted with this new (to me) plane at work. As it is I spend a couple of hours studying each day before an overwater flight. I see now that I was coasting a bit on the 737. Oh and I need to find that damn article…
Hey @smokinhole,
Just keep on doing what you are doing. I’ve always considered that you come across as nothing but eloquent and I have always enjoyed reading what you post, regardless of the subject matter.
Cheers, John
Crash never disappoints.
Yeah, he’s…uhmm… special.
Interesting review…
Wheels