^^ Wow. For the vast majority of the time, you really cannot see a submerged sub–even one at PD most of the time. Even from an aircraft right above it. If you could we wouldn’t waste so much effort of MAD gear. That is kind of the whole point of being a submarine…you are hiding underwater.
To get an idea of what you were describing, I looked at images of aircraft that ditched at sea (or runway overruns) - and yea, the only submerged part you are likely to see is the wings when they are immediately below the surface (inches). Anything else, not visible.
I think it’s only really a possibility when the water is like glass, which is far more common in a lake than any ocean. I’ve seen it in Jamaica and Grand Caiman and a couple of other places when the wind has been largely absent, but it’s usually in shallow water where you wouldn’t see a sub anyway.
I don’t think a sinking ship is going to leave the water very calm, and the sub would have to be pretty still and shallow.
On the plus side, it hardly makes sense for things to disappear at the water line, either. They’ve likely taken it a bit too far this way and will need to dial it back a bit.
I’m nowhere near a naval expert, but how does angle factor into all of this? I don’t disagree that the visibility seems to be a tad too high but it seems we’re looking down onto it from pretty close range. What does it look like from deck height and some distance away?
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LOL, brilliant
So somewhere in my service record it lists the number of days I’ve been stationed aboard a ship. Its around 5 years. While it is true that must of those days, we were in port, I was still physically on the ship–meaning that could go outside and see the harbor and the other ships.
In other words I’ve seen a lot water and ships - mine and others - in lots of ports, seas, ocean, straits and the Suez Canal.
I have rarely seen the hull of a ship below the water line ( i.e. the actual line where the hull meets the water.)
Yes, there are places where the water is very clear and you can see some of the hull. And there are instances like when a submarine is traveling on the surface and the water flows over and around the bow where you can look down from the sail and see some of the hull that is under water (and watch the porpoises play).
But by-and-large you just don’t see anything below the water line.
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My hunch is that depth has little bearing on the actual visibility of the water near the surface. Visibility is mostly determined by how much material (biological or otherwise) is being churned by the current. I have dived in the same spot in FL with visibility in the 50’s one day and maybe 8 feet on another. But even on the good days, if you are floating more than 100’ above the sea floor, it is pretty hard to tell what visibility conditions you will be dealing with until you dive it. Refraction and rippling make seeing through the water’s surface difficult. But from a plane I’ve seen plenty of submerged objects. The sharp angle and greater distance from surface disturbances make, I am guessing, seeing the mysteries below easier than when observing from deck or dock.
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Is it just me, or are all the ground vehicles “sinking” through the surface of FARPs? Appear to be sitting on the ground underneath the FARP. Or are we building FARPs out of quicksand and I didn’t get the memo. 
Seen that happening for a while, not sure what the deal is.
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They tweaked something with the ejected pilot being able to stand on buildings, maybe somehow the “roof” of farps was changed also.
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Swell (sigh)
I saw a Shilka on the roof of a building last night. Those college kids and their pranks!
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I have sen it where Blue cannot capture a FARP because there is a Red vehicle under it.
LOL!
Actually, the ability to put things on top of buildings comes in quite handy. In both the PG and Caucasus map, there are many buildings with flat roofs - perfect to place a MANPAD up high where they can get a better view. Likewise I wanted to place an “ATC” radar at an airfield - I used the HAWK AN/MPQ-50 and placed it atop an airport building - looks about right.
The down side is that you cannot put people/vehicles on GOPLATs (off shore rigs) or ships. It would be great to have a “bad guy” MERSHIP or a captured GOPLAT with a couple of MANPADs.
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College kids with their Mi-26s again… 
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You could say the Shilka performed a “Halo jump”
Sorry.
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Did they get a manual from Raytheon or something?
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