DCS 2.7 Discussion

It’s not that I think combat flightsimming is immoral or so. I sometimes pause to think about how this or that must have been, for those who actually did what I just pretended to do.

I like that over the IL-2 GB forced third perspective experience.
But I remember Airwar had an even cooler simulation where you jumped out and then had to pull the cord too… :wink:

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And still no Iraq or SEA. And have they officially announced Afghanistan?

Cus you know the difference between fantasy and reality? I’m just guessing here. Males, which I’m pretty certain constitute the majority of combat flight simulation fans, just play different.

For example: racing around a virtual city in a sports car (I’m sure there are such titles) is fun; mastering the technique is fun. But I know I shouldn’t do it in the real world.

Yeah, it’s complicated.

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That is indeed important knowledge. And yes, I do know this :wink:

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For me it’s both; on the one hand it’s learning a martial art. Si vis pacem, para bellum: if you wish for peace, you must prepare for war. Or at least know all about it.

On the other hand knowing how things looked, what the risks were and how much courage it took to strap on that machine and roar off into the unfriendly skies. It’s a way of honouring history by studying it.

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Reminds me a quote from the good Colonel:
We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won’t allow them to write “****” on their airplanes because it’s obscene!

I reflect on that a lot. I certainly doubt I could do it; glad I don’t have to.

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Agreed. Thats about as deep as i go with it also :wink:

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I mean you can only keep putting out the same products for MS FS so many times before the sales don’t make up the development costs.

DCS World Literally has 90% of the globe unmapped, and then you have the World in other Eras (WWII etc).

So an experienced team like OrbX literally has open availability when it comes to where and when, and next to no competition, So instead of continuing to develop areas and compete with everyone in FSX/P3D/FS2020.

They literally come to DCS and have free reign

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Here’s hoping they seize that opportunity! :beer:

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Yes….Very good point.The DCS World is a Developers Oyster.

The only problem I see with developing for DCS(And in my opinion,It’s aHuge Problem) Is a developer is locked into constantly updating their product as DCS updates,which has been fairly often…and looks to be more so in future with Vulcan,Multi-Threading,New Weather System,New ATC etc on the horizon.

I think this has kept a fair number of well known aircraft developers away from The DCS platform….As with developing for P3D,MSFS and XPlane…You are just responsible for your product working for that version…with the possibility of having to update the said product for another version but as payware.

And don’t get me wrong…Im not complaining…as an end user I get so much value from this platform.

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What makes you think they release and forget on FSX/P3D/FS2020?

and FS2020 puts out updates internally at twice the frequency as DCS does.

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But do their updates break products/modules like DCS does??
Example…The Mig-21 launched some 7-8 yrs ago.
It’s been updated constantly by The Developer For Free .Tell Me? When have you seen that kind of support from PMDG,MiLViz,VRS?….for That Amount of Time ??

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Well no, cause milviz, and VRS dont have a prayer in coming to DCS, and PMDG I dunno.

But yes, I’ve seen IFT, Iris, and Even Razbam continue support for their products through huge breaking bugs in the ESP Core code.

VRS as well, has supported their projects through growing pains of ESP to the expanded 64bit ESP in P3D to the new engines.

….but for how long??? Through how many versions ?? To what end?? DCS is the only platform in our very small niche market that demand this kind of support from Developers making products for them/us.But as I mentioned :grinning:I’m not complaining :grinning:

well,
if they decide to Leave, the Module in Raw forms goes to ED for continued support.
and some other things,

You really think ED didnt learn and change after VEAO?

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Worse - and to hear certain developers over there tell it, Alsobo is much less communicative/ receptive to input from their developers.

Milviz talks about that pretty regularly in their own thread.

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I would hope that at this point being around this long and with this many in-house and 3rd party modules around, DCS’ airplane module API should be rather stable, at least for established functionality.

yeah, you wouldn not believe some of the FB posts from Devs stating a FS2020 update broke the RC Build, and that the next version is now delayed.

It still bothers me that we lost the Hawk…

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I don’t think so….It was stated on a recent ACS Podcast that the new lighting in DCS had broken some functionality in some 3rd party cockpits.
Also…The upcoming F4U had to be redone because of DCS updates/upgrades…DCS is. A Constant Moving Target.

out of interest are veao or blue sky simulation or whatever it is now still going?

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