DCS Chopper thread

I agree with all of the above, haha!

Yes, I think scripted is a good word for the feeling, however as you say the action you can get in the Gazelle is just great - and I suspect MP Stinger games are going to be even more addictive, judging by some of my DCS rotorhead friends’ activities.

The Huey is an absolute joy to fly and throw around. I like the AP’s of the Hip quite a bit…it’s nice to be able to set her to go where I want and have a sip of my beer between the action, but the Huey is definitely a good sweet spot in terms of handling and weight, just like you said. :+1:

Still, wouldn’t return the Gazelle either - she might be a liar but she’s pretty and so much fun! :heart:

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Exactly right. That’s how I feel. I’m definitely having fun. I spent a good 10 mins trying to land on a truck yesterday before work and once I got the screenshot I wanted, I fired over to a nearby bridge. Slid underneath it, popped up and blasted the truck to bits (blue on blue…eh… ) and was laughing manically afterwards. I really enjoy it. Its just so zippy! Lol.

One thing I noticed in your video (not a criticism at all) was that I can take off a lot straighter than you but you transition to hover and slow speed a lot more precisely than I can. I wonder if maybe your pedal curves are set differently and your stick gives finer control than mine. I think that’s a big part of it

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That’s interesting! I should probably play with the curves a bit and potentially try out some of the alternative cams for the Crosswinds.

Also, my pedal set up in terms of ergonomy isn’t great at the moment, I think, which I hadn’t thought about much before, so thank you for bringing that up - the pedals sit too low, too flat and too close to my body, so I probably don’t get as good fine control.

In terms of joystick, I’m running a center-mounted stock TMWH with an ad-hoc “Monstertech” solution to drop it lower but no extension. Removing the spring would help with helo fine control, but I still fly fixed wing as well so haven’t taken the leap to go all-helo. It’s possible the Warthog has better fine control than the t16000, although I think both have the same hall sensors.

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Like I say it wasn’t a criticism at all it was just interesting to see the parts where we differ. Looking at your hip video you are more stable and in control in all aspects of the flight to me.

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Try the gazelle with the SAS turned off, see of it feels less scripted like that… if you dare!

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Ooh that’s a good idea! I’ll report back

I talked about the Gazelle FM with @Franze since I do not have it yet and he does but part of it was the other helicopters fly within their limits and then metaphorically and sometimes literally fall apart outside of them. The Gazelle however does not by comparison, and you can pull some rather ridiculous moves as a result.

The refueling crew love me, They dont need to unroll the pipe. Just pass it up!!

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I hear you guys. I have X55 so same tech - joystick with single centring spring. What you can try is the following mod.
This achieves softer centring witch is fine for helos but still provides the needed centring for fixed wings. The latter you obviously loose with removed spring.

On X55/X56 this mod is straight forward, as the spring is outside the joystick base. You will have to grab some screwdriver to mod T16000 and WH :slight_smile:

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Ok…thats interesting. Its relatively easier to hover and stay stable with it turned OFF (although that might be a placebo effect of my own creation) but my lord is it a handful at speed. Its not too bad in a straight line. But turn or try and stop (or lose any speed at all) turns it into a death machine. Hard as hell to fly with it turned off.

Also tried it in VR tonight. Its much easier to fly in VR. However the huey is an absolute joy to fly precisely compared to the gazelle. Its really bugging me as it sometimes feels really stable. Really easy and I feel like i have it nailed (relative to the time flown, but you know what I mean) and other times it feels more out of control than before. Adding weight seems to do nothing to it either. Chucks guide mentioned a full TOW load and full fuel making you overweight but I could see no perceptible change in the flight model…
I’m really enjoying this little chopper. Its such an interesting little beast to get to grips with.

Spent a little while in the huey as well and after the gazelle. Well. It might be the easiest thing to fly accurately. I go from the gaz and over correct constantly to the huey and I feel straight away like I’m in control and ahead of the chopper. I’ve taken to it really well. Much easier to fly accurately and safely than the hip or the gaz. I landed on an oil rig like I have been doing it for years earlier.

Guys…I think I prefer flying choppers to planes (in game)…don’t tell my tomcat. She will be upset.

I cannot WAIT for the hind to be released. I might almost be hover head proficient by then. I’m having so much fun with the whirly birds. Blowing the crap out things with the gaz and practicing CSAR in the huey are my new favourite things to do. I’m a happy boy.

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This is my issue. I have all these wonderful planes in my hangar. But I come home, I don’t have a lot of time or headspace…I want to learn the Hornet, the F-16…all these high performance planes that I could have great fun in, and in particular are useful in MP, you could "do stuff’ in almost any server with the modern planes…but they are just nowhere near as dynamic and fun to fly every second as the helicopters are. So while this year was supposed to be about the Hornet for me…I never got past the Hip month, lol.

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So you’re saying you need a hip replacement?
:grimacing:

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:rofl:

Yep, otherwise I risk becoming a Hip-popotamus…

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Soon you’ll be bounding through the woods with the effortless grace of a hind :smiley:

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That’s always been my impression. The Gazelle also breaks a few laws of physics. I and others complained and they did make some FM tweaks two years ago, promising more once their new dev settled in. Those changes never came—other than some control curve adjustments to help mask the rough flight model. I enjoy the Gazelle in much the same way I enjoy the A-wing in Star Wars Squadrons: it has no basis in reality, but if you are willing to chuck your experience and education out the window, it is loads of fun.

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I’ve removed the spring years ago on mine and never looked back.
The stick still “naturally” sits in the center position and while you’re manoeuvering you can definitely feel when you’re going thru the center. Highly recommend doing it, it never caused me any issues with fixed wing aircraft

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Having a lot of fun doing this.
(it’s just the F4 camera)

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You guys, check it out:

This is from the discord, @NineLine yelling “Get some!” at the communist Georgian cows. Notice the window in the lower left corner, crew status. “NET” denotes a networked player. Oh yes boys, it’s happening!

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NOICE!!!

I wanna sit in the back. Feet dangling over the side moaning about your flying while I man the Minigun.

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