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I totally agree. It definitely is. I really really hope that the tech matures like everything else we play with.

I still very much enjoy my procedures training in 2d but nothing beats the feeling of lifting off the runway in the MIG 21 in VR or Translating sideways in the Huey and looking out the window.

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Crying in lack-of-3090

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Ha! With my r295x2 I see everything in my world at 20fps. Its like seeing a really pants version of the matrix

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thats my main concern. I am not sure if I have the answer to this question ’ am I ready to be bothered with all the VR issues ? '.

G2 has the cable issues
Pimax has build quality issues
Index has ‘not being cost effective’ issue (you can buy only the kit these days)


edit : and I didnt mention the ‘firmware/portals’ issues and the constant chase for performance :slight_smile:

with good monitor it is usually plug 'n play

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But that’s tech that has matured over years and years. I remember playing A10 tank killer 2 on my 386 and it was a slideshow. I couldn’t even run the 747 on Flight sim 4. It just wouldn’t run.

I think after 10 years we will be in the same position with VR being just as friendly and plug and play. But while I I totally believe in the future of VR, I do absolutely acknowledge what a pain in the bum it is now

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Keeps weeping in no-3090

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cough r295x2

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With the new cable I guess G2 is back in the game :slight_smile:

That’s indeed a valid question.
The problem with recommending VR to others is not knowing how big of an impact it will be, for this person. It depends on a lot of factors, and willingness to tinker with hardware and software and giving up performance or graphics, are a few. Just reading what I just wrote will put a lot of prospective VR buyers off and that’s because I can’t describe the positive sides of VR, well enough. I’d have to be a writer or a poet :wink:
For me, the impact of VR is huge. It’s quite simply what I’ve always wanted flightsimming to be

But, it is almost impossible to describe. It must be experienced.

Like the other guys are saying here, in 10 years from now, it will be a different ballgame.
Just like when we had to edit autoexec.bat and config.sys, to get our DOS flightsims to run properly on 386 and 484 systems, the world has progressed. But that doesn’t mean I didn’t have fun back then too
 :slight_smile: I could’ve said, I can’t be bothered with this! I’ll wait. But then I would’ve missed out on Falcon3 and DI Tornado and a bunch of other sims. I’m glad I didn’t.

And it worked flawlessly on my Intel system
 It’s when I switched to AMD that I got into trouble with that cable. Which reminds me! I need to hook up and test the new one
! :vr:

I think you are right
 but on the other hand, doesnt VR exists for more than 10years? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

The 1990s saw the first widespread commercial releases of consumer headsets. In 1992, for instance, Computer Gaming World predicted “affordable VR by 1994”.

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@NEVO I completely agree, but the home computer existed a long time before it became mainstream as well. The tech is 30 years behind the pc hardware that is running it really isn’t it.

I truly believe it is the future for not just sims but the gaming hobby as a whole. Star trek Holodeck notwithstanding

Valid question @NEVO . And I am pretty sure even the VR enthousiasts and early adopters have their ‘ok, I am done’ moments with VR.
There is no doubt its still a bit of a rabbit hole to jump into; hardware upgrades, software tweaking, etc. It’s very easy to fall into the trap of trying to maximize performance and/or quality of picture and after a while realising it has taken up more time than actually flying a sim with it.

In my humble opinion VR isn’t yet mainstream. We tend to think so from looking at the sim community, but let’s not forget that simming isn’t mainstream itself either.

If you want plug and play, worry free gaming I’d say its a little too early to jump into VR.
If you don’t mind configuring your system and fiddling with tools and software and accept this will keep you from spending more time in your sim actually flying missions, VR is the way forward! :grinning:

There is no denying flying a sim in VR is something special once it works, performs well and displays a quality picture.

Still, the barrier for me at times is the ergonomics side of VR.
Your vision is enclosed, you will need to think about arranging your mouse and keyboard setup and train yourself to find those controls reliably. It gets hot, especially during summertime. Lenses fog up.

Lastly you’ll need to train your VR-legs (not so much in sims perhaps) to overcome the ‘VR sickness’ most have at the start so your brain gets used to disconnecting what you see from your balance system.

When that gets to me (and it does every so often) its just easier and more comfortable to leave the headset alone and start flying in 2D.

I still have my TIR5 and 43” 4K monitor.

Wether that’s worth the admission of a VR set and a GPU is a personal thing.

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I am already lost in the rabbit hole and I didnt even looked into the headset yet! ( in fact I looked into HS shortly once few months ago and it was G1 HS and HL: Alyx ).
I ordered HS via amazon few days ago and they didnt confirm my payment method yet. :slight_smile:

I am aiming for seated sim experience, from Oct. to Mar., setting my sesions max 1h in length with pauses in between ( that what I am training for already with pancake with varying results :slight_smile: )

Also I feel that the performance chase is not stranger to me. Once I tasted big screens ( 40inch plus ) I knew I need to go big and 4K. Ended up with 55inch in 4K. But atm I rather prefer FHD and better performance than 4K and performance struggle.

I wrote all the above to assure you that I am ready for VR
 but you know that I am not :slight_smile: I just need to try it and will see, literally. Anyway many thanks for your experiences guys.

Maybe I will end up in VR flying VTOL VR only :slight_smile:

EDIT: Checked amazon again and it says ’ arriving Friday’. Not bad. Hope it will be rainy outside the whole weekend so I will have time to test, lol.

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