These look fantastic, but as a owner of their Ace pedals, my next upgrade will definitely be FFB type. TIANHANG SPACE already has FFB mod kits for VPC, WinWing, and Slaw pedals, although not sure what the software drivers would be. After using the MOZA AB9 base which have an unused port marked PEDALS, one would think that they will have a FFB in the offering soon.
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The problem with a good set of pedals is that they last forever! I was in two minds about moving from my MFG Crosswinds (V2) to the Thrustmaster TPRāsā¦ but that was a good upgrade. They will probably last me well into my 60ās.
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Ah, but as the Bad Influencer In Charge (BIIC), one would have thought that you would have jumped all over the idea of FFB pedals as a prime reason to mercilessly pummel our wallets!
I have Virpil ACE pedals that look like they were built to last a lifetime, but the Falcons appear to address some of the sliding and possibly tipping issues. Mine slide somewhat, but havenāt tipped.
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Well, there are no less than 3 different FFB mods for TM TPR over on the VPforce Discord it seems.
One of them is selling kits even! Iām tempted 
TPR motor inside kit
TPR motor outside kit
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Me too!
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I wonder what software is used (if needed) for the controller? There is a lot of info on the hardware, but not the software. I know that DCS outputs telemetry data, but not how it interfaces with the FFB controller on the pedals.
There appears to be an VPC ACE kit in the works as well. 
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I still feel the guilt of finally getting rid of my ch pedals.
I remember the sad final look they gave me as I left them behind at the recycling center. ā¦ āI still have life in me yet Johnny!!!ā it seemed to say
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I hear youā¦ my CH pedals just wouldnāt die even after about 15 years of service. The Crosswinds were a significant upgrade though.
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That would be TelemFFB for the extra effects and VPforce configurator to set it up. Same as the software used for the VPforce Rhino stick.
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As a mate of mine once said āCH pro pedals and cockroaches, thatās all that will be left of the planet at the endā 
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My MFG Crosswind replaced a Saitek Combat set, no regrets there. I have the damper kit, too.
As itās not mounted, I do have to block/weigh them down so they donāt shift backwards or tip left/right under large deflections. I wish the front had been as wide as the back.
I have a 10lb dumbbell sitting on a board pushed against the wall (so the pedals donāt slide under/over the board) and then 2 5lb ankleweights draped over the left and right outriggers under each pedal to prevent tipping. Total garage DIY but I have racing pedals (which use those same weights when I use it so THAT doesnāt slide/tip) that I swap into the same space so I canāt make anything permanent and bolting a 2x4 under it would just make it too unwieldy to swap between them.
Got a good chuckle out of this:
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Great idea. Unfortunately, I have one of those neglected weight sets in the garage as well. 
Laughing at the price? Yeah, I donāt recommend it if you have an aversion to printed nylon. But, the switches are supposed to be mil spec, which seem too stiff at first. But Iāve grown to appreciate.
You know that the A-10C grip has a different fore/aft angle than the F-16? Hard to tell from the photo, but he states it somewhere on the site. I ordered the F-16 (26) version, but it also seems to work well as a center stick. I may try it on the side though, if I ever get around to learning the viper. The Mossie and Phantom are filling my schedule atm.
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IIRC thereās a difference in the angle/curve of the stick/connector.
The connector is fairly generic, which is a good thing. Only the DIN and the locking collar mate, which allows you to use an offset without an adapter with any TM, VPC, MOZA base/extension. There is also a set screw that prevents it from twisting once you have the proper angle set. When you account for not having to buy an adapter, the cost is getting much closer to TMās $250 they charge for the Hornet grip. Another grip comparison is with the MH16 at $190. I love its metal construction, but the switches feel like they came from Saitek. They maybe work for some users, but I found myself constantly selecting the wrong function, dropping bombs and firing rockets at awkward moments
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I donāt know, those look exactly identical to me. Like slapping two names on the same product just so people donāt have to be educated on the fact that both planes use the same grip. 
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I doubt Iāll have the same feeling about the Thrustmaster T-Flight pedals I had to replace my old Saitek pedals withā¦
Iām glad weāre finally getting options for control loading on the rudder pedals!
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