I’d also like to fly the A-4 and F-4 a bit, but I feel in our late cold war scenario they cannot survive on their own well. Probably some combined strike package where some mavericks take out most of the radars and then the bomb trucks laying waste on the site would work …
I’m fully aware that @Derbysieger is operating the Phantom succesfully, but I’m also aware that I operate several skill levels below him 
He mavericks the radars while evading the missiles. I have seen him work and the missile evasion he does is reproducible for mere mortals like us. Watch him work some time.
Busting SAMs becomes infinitely more easy when you pair up. One to run in and make with the pew, one to dance with the devil and wiggle their tail at death. Or just take a HARM 
And even then I managed to lose three airframes doing it :XD:
Looks like the server crashed. Unusual. Fixing it now and will read the crash report…
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The most important skill is to bravely run away whenever something looks at you the wrong way 
When I am working alone I simply run the SAM site dry by constantly letting it shoot at me and then evading the missiles. If there’s terrain to hide behind it’s pretty easy, if not it takes a little more practice but is not too difficult. I always take two Mavericks, 6xMk.82 or Mk.20 and two bags of gas along a full complement of eight A2A missiles (4 Sparrows and 4 Sidewinders).
Please note that once you select air to air missiles after cooling down the Mavericks the latter become dead weight.
There are two options to kill the SAM site when working alone:
When you are working as a two ship things become significantly easier and more effective. One is the weasel who’s job it is to get shot at, the other is the shooter who hangs back a little bit and simply moves in for the kill while the SAM is busy looking at your lead/wingman. Once the shooter is out of stand-off weapons you reverse roles. With the way GBAD is set up in foothold you can quite easily make quick work of any air defences you might encounter when flying as a two-ship.
I think one thing we can all agree on in the last couple of years is how well democracy really works. So let’s do a poll:
Which Direction Should We Attack?
Given where we are and having played the campaign a bit we can be adaptable, we could tweak the SAM rules if we want?
A bit of teamwork is in order I think. There’s this nifty little thing the Hornet and Tomcat can carry called ADM-141. Saturate the SAM-sites (two ship hornet with TALDs should be enough) then have a dedicated strike package to run in with bombs while the SAMs are shooting at decoys. I know this works incredibly well in DCS. The SA-2 is btw less dangerous than the SA-6 even though it has larger range. The biggest threat we are going to face is the SA-5 all the way in the south-east. maybe we can make that an event for a weekend where we all come together to get that done. I’d like to do it without much help from AI
Sounds good to me, I can fire ducks all day and an event (‘SA-5 Celebration Day’ or something) this coming weekend sounds great. I’d do a poll for Saturday or Sunday but I’m going burn people out.. 
No you’re not. Poll away!
Do the [time= date= timezone=] thingies! In the poll!
I need to brush up on how to do air to ground anything in the F-14
A get together to go do a group thing. If the SA-5 is already dead then we’ll find something else. that needs doing
SA-5 Life Day Celebration I would like this to commence at (tick all you can make give our gaussian spheric distribution):
I am actually wondering how the S-200 is set up here, both the SAM site itself (I haven’t checked it yet) and inside the Mantis IADS script. I know for a fact that it can easily reach out to 135 nautical miles and still be very lethal if ignored. I had it pop up a couple of times on my RWR but never launch at me even though I was well within its engagement range. The longest kill I have observed during testing was at around 132 nautical miles while making only haphazard attempts at defending the launch and I have observed launches starting around 135 nautical miles.
IIRC the long range tracking radar has limited coverage, it’s not 360° like other radars which might be a factor here. I will look at my test setup before the weekend.
I am lucky enough to be in Marrakech and whiny enough to complain about it. Morocco just isn’t my cup o’ tea, especially during Ramadan. This is all to say: I am here wishing I were there. Between gym time and long walks I am studying the manual trying to figure out why my weapons placement is so ineffective in the F-4. I am slightly obsessed! I haven’t been in this headspace with respect to DCS in a couple of years. I like the feeling! But I have some things I want to try before bringing more ineptness onto the server. It’s not that the game engine cares. It is much like Israel’s air force. No matter how much ordinance is expended, more keeps coming from…somewhere. But waisting munitions and planes is embarrassing. The late Friday party allows me to come home, take my helicopter lesson and practice DEAD scenarios. I think I know what to do!
Got some work in today with @miRage, @Sryan, @BeachAV8R, @TeTeT, @fearlessfrog, and possibly someone else (if I missed your name I apologize).
MiRage and I worked on India. Got a few shots in passing.
Going low to avoid the SA-8’s. You know when you can see your shadow below the canopy rail, you’re down there. Also the white smoke is from miRage’s shrikes, which were helpful to try and line up mavericks on.
After taking a break for non-dcs things, back in the saddle tonight. Hoped on and coordinate with Beach to lay waste with some Hogs. Fearless and Sryan were knocking down Red jets left and right, and TeTeT was running supplies, CSAR, and cap’ing zone’s as fast as we could knock them down. Beautiful team work guys!
Beach dodging a Shilka
Beach had already done all the hard work by the time I showed up, or could cycle through with a fresh set of mavericks on target. We knocked down Durrayhim, Golf, TV tower, and Sierra (which was just a big dome radar in the middle of the desert), and finished with Tabqa.
After getting the capture at Tabqa I headed over to deal with the seemingly endless convoys attacking Papa or Abu al-Duhur.
A little cannon action on an artillery convoy shooting at either Abu al-Duhur or Papa.
Wish I still had some CBU’s or Rockets, but I guess ~700 rounds of 30mm will have to do.
Well and truly winchester.
Not a bad haul.
Decided to grab a downed pilot just SW of Jirah and call it a night.
Or so I thought.
Ended up having to make a few door gun runs to thin out the infantry a bit, to feel like I could risk taking the Huey in. I almost elected to skip the door guns… Did probably my smoothest and most precise Huey landing ever sliding in between the groups of troops and technicals.
Yep, we shot a few rounds on the way in and out.
Fortunately, it was just an invertor failure (or damage, not sure), turbine was still roaring along just fine. I spent a good 30 seconds trying to find the whiskey compass to get back to Jirah, as the invertor also powers the HSI. Not my finest moment.
Not one to leave a bunch of red units right next to one of our airfields, time to get rid of them.
I love the F-5.
Ran a load of cargo down to Papa, and burned some support points on Incirlik, Factory, and Abu al-Duhur to keep them above 1. All 5 of those are under 100% due to continual enemy action, so if anyone is feeling like running some logistics, plenty of spots that need them. Also, enemy attack convoy headed to factory from Romeo, on the map it was showing a couple T-55’s so bring something with ATGM’s.
@schurem has a point maybe. Syria is a beautiful part of the world but its featureless desserts can make ingress difficult. Here I was trying to come in with snakeeyes but in this terrain there is nowhere to hide. Went to attack a convoy attacking Abu with @BeachAV8R and did a bit of CAP for him again.
Brrrt from beach. He got all in one pass I believe.
@fearlessfrog was a productive hunter with many shootdowns today.
Me coming back for a rearm while he is just heading out again.
Even against the background of space… The sparrow won’t track and rather eat some dirt than that Hind.
As Frog was distributing MiG parts all along the coast, I respawned inland and shot one down over our Hogs
I believe that’s @jenrick driving
Signed off for the night.
That’s why I like to take two Mavericks on the special weapons adapter. Let the Osa shoot at you, defend, go in for the kill. Then you can focus on dropping bombs
I just did a quick solo bit. @BeachAV8R was capping the dam in a chinook just as I got on, but left quickly thereafter. I worked Foxtrot for a bit. First losing two Su-25s, thinking I could just throw Big Rockets at them and hoping that the splash damage would kill the stingy crawlies. But that didn’t work out too well. So I took up a hog, mavericked the stingy ones, gunned the rest and flew back.
Last I took a Hip to rescue my frogfoot driving self, destroy the last of the reds in Foxtrot ( I could listen to that big old Kord go dakkadakka all day!) and cap the zone. All in one go. Big hips don’t lie baby!
That’s good work there! Nice… Sorry..I was playing in 2D with no voice comms and was only on for a brief foray up to the dam before I had to bug out. I planned to come back in VR later but got involved a house project..
I did my usual morning 2D drinking coffee Combined Arms stuff..stole a Bradley from Tabqa and made the short journey up to the dam. Note - you cannot drive over the top of the dam..I got stuck and only barely managed to get out of it. Found a nice little alley to do my recon of the area…
Soon after I think the ZSU’s spotted me and their AA guns outranged my TOW missiles..the explosions all around me were frightening..but didn’t do much damage…
Thinking they might soon find the range..I elected to kill the SA-8 and waste a missile that I wanted to save for the BMPs and BRDMs…
I picked my way closer..helped by an AI F-4 group (I didn’t buy them…they just showed up) that was doing some damage too. Got close enough to switch to the Bushmaster. Fun to turn up the volume and let the bass from the speakers rattle the coffee mug…
King of the hill…
Dam went NEUTRAL so I grabbed a CH-47 and came up to claim it. Fun flying in and seeing the smoke billowing from my destruction and see my Bradley still sitting there amongst it..
@schurem was up to the northwest throwing ordnance at Foxtrot. I briefly considered joining in VR..but Life Responsibilities beckoned…
It would be super cool if the commercially successful monster of Combined Arms worked in VR and/or be multi-crewed one day.
Do you get points in CA stuff - because how can you even get up in the morning if you’re not getting points?
I think it does, at least partially: I think I remember driving a truck in VR.
Stuff like the tank and SAM interface, probably not?
