GPU Thread

At 2600€? Are you sure?

Sounds like gamers just migrated from power users to bottom feeders. 80s and 90s GPUs are for corporations and whales at these price points.

Let‘s wait and see :slight_smile:

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I plan on also upgrading my G2 to a higher resolution headset sometime next year and I don’t want to risk being VRAM limited again so, yeah. Unfortunately AMD seems to still have some teething problems in VR and pairing anything but a high end GPU with the 9800X3D is silly in my book. Shame Nvidia is so stingy with their VRAM allocation to anything but their top end cards. If 12GB is limiting on a G2 I imagine that I can quickly run into limitations with a 16GB card when getting a higher resolution headset.

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At this point I’m seriously considering a B580 as a big middle finger to Nvidia.

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I‘m wondering if any of the cards will beat a RX 6800 XT from 2019 by a big enough margin to justify a new purchase. After 5 years that should be a given, but it‘s weird.

Due to corona the old GPU was 950€. I‘m not paying more than 750€ now, unless there‘s a new pandemic locking me in at home.

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I paid way way too much for a 3060 Ti in 2021, and the 4060 with the crippled memory bus is just insulting. I’d actually probably be okay with it if they called it a 4050 (or a 4030), but even then the price is too high for what it is.

2019 Radeons (if you didn’t pay Australian prices for it where they try to price-match nvidia :man_facepalming:t2:) are very hard to beat for value. But the 2019 nvidias? I’ve got a 2060 that I use for transcoding and idly tried to test out as a gaming GPU when I got it… I’m super glad I only paid $150 for it! I prefer my old 1660 Ti to that card!

I’m sure if money is no object you just go with nvidia - those 3090/4090s are amazing in what they can do, and a brace of RTX 4000s for business applications is pretty compelling if your workflow can use them. But the “budget” cards? Lol.

Yeah the Nvidia “midrange” cards are kind of insulting which is why the new intel cards are such a good value. They are affordable and come with enough VRAM for modern games. 8GB VRAM shouldn’t be a thing on cards like the 4060 or the upcoming 5060 and a 5080 with 16GB is also not great.

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I’d even forgive 8GB Vram - they always claimed it was a 1080p card, again with 1440p becoming a new standard it should have been a 4050 - but crippling the bus compared to the previous x60 cards? That’s what I find insulting…

Last my four GPUs are Nvidia and AMD. First was AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB in 2010/2011 for really good price in Europe. It was perfect card for Battlefield 3, especially in combination with Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge and P67 chipset allowing overlocking CPU Intel Core, despite lack of unlocked CPU multiplicator (like was i5-2500K).
Later, because of Battlefield 4 I changed AMD for Nvidia GTX 960 2GB (VRAM + 1GB). Good card, Maxwell architecture, power efficient but performance were not so big difference from HD 6850 because much higher price and unfortunately I did not have a money for 4 GB variant (GPU was really overpriced) which were possible to used longer
Then Nvidia introduced Pascal and I almost immediately (fortunately) changed GTX 960 2GB for GTX 1060 6GB (VRAM + 4GB). Incredible performance for reasonable price.
Unfortunately it was braked by slow performance Sandy Bridge i5-2400, even of overlocking + 400 Mhz per core.
Now I have had a card with performance between GTX 980 and 980 Ti with much better power efficient than Maxwell high-end GPUs and also with much better performance.

In 2019 changed it for RDNA 1.0 AMD RX 5700XT 8GB (VRAM + 2GB) which is still with me with new PC: Ryzen 7 3700X, X570 chipset, 32GB DRR4. That card due to FSR 2/3 has Quality settings still enough power to use max. details in 1440p. Performance in modern games like RTX 3060 12 GB VRAM (obviously VRAM is not everything) or GTX 1080 Ti based on HWUnboxed reviews made in last 2 years.
Yes, AMD had a big real problem with drivers approximately after half year when release RX 5700XT (black screens), fortunately they fixed it in 3-4 months (so long, I was disappointed), so they saved my money because those time I was willing to switch back to Nvidia even of bigger price. After this episode I cannot tell anything wrong for AMD GPU.
From what I heard fortunately RX 7800XT didn’t have those problems but I decided to wait for new AMD generation.

So, 2 AMD and 2 Nvidia GPUs since 2010/11. My next GPU will be very probably AMD again because of more VRAM (16GB as minimum) and better price and (hopefully like leaks say) much better performance in RT. Performance of RTX 4080 in RT/rasterisation is OK for me if price will be reasonable.
I don’t wont to buy Intel GPU because their drivers are much worse then Nvidia or AMD (in my eyes on the same level) but somebody who want to save money why not. Intel has also some HW limitation requiring their Intel chipset. Later or sooner Intel will make a good drivers.

Next dream upgrade: R7 9800X3D or R7 9700X3D, X870 chipset and RX 8800 XT or RX 9070 XT or how they will called it. I should to start to intensively save a money. :slight_smile:

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nVidia has officially announced blackwell.

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One wonders if they’ll bother with a 5060…

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They do, but decided to call it 5070.

With „4090 performance“. Sure Nvidia! :roll_eyes:

Details: Nvidia's GeForce RTX 5070 at $549 — How does it stack up to the previous generation RTX 4070? | Tom's Hardware

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The Nvidia way of thinking. RTX 5070 is not equal a RTX 4090.
:person_facepalming: not a big surprise but 12 GB VRAM again in 2025.

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And 4070 price tag …but that is real, not made up!

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We already know AMD is not doing a flagship GPU this next generation, but these prices and VRAM numbers should set them up for success in the <€900 segment

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arghhh|!|!!!

On the bright side, this is the sort of environment in which Intel can thrive with Battlemage and Celestial.

I still do a good amount of gaming in 1080p (on the TV in my lounge via Steam Link). I’m not buying a nvidia card for this usage - a B580 or its successor looks like the pick for that server…

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Flightsim listed as zero-day multi frame generation etc working app.

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Does it really need MFG?
Is that tech any good for VR?