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Damn right dude!
Also fits the F-14 topic well.
I am torn about that AI. It is great⊠but some of the mentioned capabilities and limitations are pretty much something that should have been used AI wingmen and so on in the first place. The magically bad / magically good AI in DCSW has been an issue for, like, forever. I hope some of the Jester ideas flow back from HB to ED and they do something. 
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you down my inhaling it, you can stay there and not breathe and not down, but suffocate.
Does an ejection also force the closing of firewall shutoff valves automatically?
as in engine shut off valves?
YeahâŠI was thinking there must be some link to shut the fuel, hydraulic, etcâŠso the plane wonât (usually) go flying off foreverâŠ
From what I can tell, there isnât. Take the following as an example.
This was aboard the USS Independence in mid/late 90s iirc. Anyhow Forrestals donât have jet blast deflectors for Catapult 4. The Tomcat in back has taxiâd too far forward, and as the aircraft on the cat throttles up, the nose is blown over the aft end of the deck. Both crew eject (they were rescued), however the engines are still running and posed a threat to crew and other aircraft. An enlisted man actually jumped off the deck into the cockpit of the Tomcat, and shut down the engines by moving the still functioning throttle back over the idle detents.
You can read the account from the Shipâs paper here:
Also, as no one involved was killed, âWEâRE GETTING BLOWN! AGH AGGGH! AGGGGH!â is probably my favorite piece of radio chatter ever
Thereâs also the example of the F-14B ejection I talked about in the GPS thread, and I donât know if itâs ever happened in an F-14, but Iâve read least one story of an F-8 doing a complete loop and nearly hit its carrier post ejection.
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That was exactly the clip that prompted my question⊠
The thing that shocks me about is the engine controls were still working. I donât know the force of the rocket motor in the seat, but I would not expect that the cockpit would still be functional post ejection.
everything usually still works post ejection.
I donât know if this story is all that well known, Happened well before my time in the jet, think around the early 2000âs out at Lakenheath.
Strike Eagle crew is out running the mach loop, as they are leaving the loop get an engine fire caution. Indications look like they are a legit fire. In the heat of the moment the WSO pulls the handles.
Now there is a lever in the front right of the Strike eagle, and Iâm sure there is one in the tomcat as well that sets the dual ejection setting. The settings are normal, and aft initiate, with a third position that it can be put into with a special brace (for flying without a backseater). We normally fly in aft initiate, which means ejection is initiated by the back seater, but also means that the ejection is sequenced so that the back seater goes first so he doesnt get a faceful of rocket from the front seaters ejection. Normal means they are no longer linked, you go when you pull your handles.
Well the WSO had forgotten to put the handle into the aft initiate position before takeoff. So ejects himself. The pilot finds himself flying a four hundred knot convertible and thinks something horrible has happened like a bird strike since he canât talk to his WSO anymore and the canopy is gone. He proceeds to fly direct lakenheath and lands just fine.
About 20 minutes before he gets back the top 3 desk gets a call from the WSO who landed near a welsh village and found a phone, saying that hes ejected and he canât find the pilot. Moments later the pilot calls up home base and lets them know that he canât talk to his WSO. Shenanigans and hilarity then ensued.
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I suppose this one might be kinda obviousâŠ
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Donât think that the Russians used cut-off valves either:
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Obviously the Soviets shouldâve wised up and just removed all pilots from the Floggers.
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Harm ejected his CO (or rather he ejected himself) in a Episode of JAG, so it must be true.
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