Heatblur F-14 and Forrestal Update

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Heatblur did the Viggen and it is a great plane. I hadnā€™t ā€œlandedā€ on DSC World when it came out so maybe there were somme growing painsā€¦there always areā€¦however, if they can do an F-14 with a similar level of capability, Iā€™ll be happy.

Thatā€™s a Swordsman Turkey!

Hmmmmā€¦

As I used to tell my Intel Officer students, ā€œWords are our tools. They need to be scalpels, not sledgehammers.ā€

Is ā€œsuperiorā€ a sledgehammer in this case?

I would tend to agree that if you are a company, and one path is the ā€œsuperiorā€ business move, then you had better hop onto that path and get a product out the door to start bringing $, Ā£, ā‚¬ in the door (I couldnā€™t find the Yen key).

Perhaps he meant ā€œbetterā€ or even ā€œgoodā€ā€¦which allows for some business trade offs against pure incomeā€¦things like maintaining a high standard product when it hits the market, maintaining the companyā€™s reputation for good, complete work and therefore keeping/building customer loyalty. Just a thought.

Orā€¦since my birthday is n August, maybe itā€™s finished and they are just holding back to give me a nice birthday present. :sunglasses:

The viggen is a great module, I didnā€™t buy it in early access, so I canā€™t speak to how it was released. Heatblur has been pretty quick squashing bugs and stuff since Iā€™ve owned it.

I doubt the Tomcat is finished and they are just sitting on it, itā€™s more likely itā€™s not in a state they feel comfortable releasing it in. Thatā€™s essentially what he said. If they had already shown images and videos of a more complete product, I would say they are waiting for the hornet hype to die down a bit, let the market come back a little. BUT they havenā€™t even shown the F-14 in a completed external model (chrome cat only). Iā€™ll take a leap and say the August reveals heā€™s speaking on will be some completed external stuff, and begin the hype/marketing video roll outs.

Seems pretty likely it will be flyable this year, but you never know.

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Each DCS team has their own personality.

ED are, well, ED

Belsimtek was like EDā€™s little sibling. Quiet, diligent, you could be forgiven for forgetting they existed until they would politely ask for your attention to announce a module coming out in three to six months that filled a niche you didnā€™t realize was needed until they pointed it out. #RIPPhantom

Razbam are craftsmen. They pick a subject that can iterate off existing technology. They make pretty art. They make it fly decent, and give it enough systems to not be broken with the intent. Then they support it and move on to their next product.

Heatblur are artistes. With the e. They make promises, they donā€™t keep them. To be honest Iā€™d expect ā€œsome exciting revealsā€ to be one reveal, and itā€™s as likely ā€œAugustā€ means 06:59:59 September 1st, CET as it does the actual month. You put up with it because theyā€™re worth it.

Time and circumstance hasnā€™t been as kind to the MiG-21 as other modules, but one musnā€™t forget it was a ground breaking breath of fresh air in 2014. The fact it came out at all after the great Beczl drama was an accomplishment, that it pushed so many boundaries for its time was am embarrassment of riches.

The Viggen released as the most complete realization of a vision since the A-10C. The art, both visual and sound, were just right. It looked like a lived in jet, each switch had a satisfying clunk. There were creaks and pops as you maneuvered, the roar of the afterburner, the faint phosphorescent glow of the monitor as you hooned around in the weather at night. The chirps and beeps of the just terrible RWR. It is a beautiful module that was clearly the beneficiary of untold quantities of love.

Iā€™ve been a Tomcat nerd since I was six. Since this jet was announced in 2015, Iā€™ve gone out and picked up just about every version of the manual I can find, tore three four or five pilot memoirs, and pick up just about every book I can on the subject. Reading the scattered dispatches from HB is a treat, and going back and re-reading them with the benefit of more domain knowledge and clearer intention from the devs reveals even more goodness. I have every confidence whenever itā€™s dropped, this module is going to be the module that surpasses metal gear every thing else.

Theyā€™re silent because they strike me as the sort of people that have every intention of making a slick, polished dev update, but dive into work and forget to come up for air. Itā€™s extremely frustrating having to wait, but in the end there isnā€™t much else we can do, and we know it will have been worth it.

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Iā€™m sure Iā€™ll regret asking, but where do you see VEAO in this analogy?

Ouch, can we just bleep this one out? @staff

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Itā€™s poor taste to speak ill of the dead.

Could we not?

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A very interesting rundownā€¦fills much of the gaps between my use of LOMAC/FC1 and DCS-World 2.5.

[Emphasis mine]

Alas, I have not had the same experience with Razbam during their FSX days. In fact, quite the opposite.

Once they decided to move to DCS, their FSX support came to screeching haltā€¦the screeching coming from those of us who had purchased their Harrier and/or Beta version of A-7 for TACPACK. This was months before they actually ā€œmovedā€ to DCS Worldā€¦their trouble call system was still in operation, etcā€¦ The Harrier bug should have been caught in Betaā€¦I caught it within a few hours use ā€“ the jet is unable to fly a mission routeā€¦I seem to recall I got a ā€œweā€™ll look at itā€ to my support request but thenā€¦cricketsā€¦and way cool screen shots of their DCS Mirage.

I have not purchased the Mirage or Harrierā€¦itā€™s a ā€œOnce bitten; Twice shyā€ kind of thing.

I do wish we could get a proper T-45 for training, especially two seat multiplayer.

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I could go on about Razbam, and my thoughts on their commitment to quality and fidelity, but at the end of the day.

  1. Iā€™m not trying to drag anyone through the mud
  2. This is the Heatblur F-14 thread
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Here ya goā€¦

Back on topic

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Right-O!

(Crew ejected safely!)

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My heart :persevere:

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To make matters worse, was an F-14D: Incident Grumman F-14D Super Tomcat 164344, 29 Mar 2004

Pfft, amateurs.

without-a-wing

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I rather have a harrier, mirage, hidden and bunch o migs from a shifty character selling them out of the back of a beat up old truck than none at all.

This is why every F-14 had an emergency storage compartment containing Liquid Schwartz.