IL-2 Great Battles Dev News

I just bought Bodenplatte to add to the stable. Only Tank crew is missing from my collection :slight_smile:

Do you have all the extra Collector Planes too? Not all of them are part of the main modules.

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He who dies with the most modules wins.

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I just wish they would call them something besides “modules”. For some reason I just can’t get behind that word :slight_smile:

“License”
“Type rating”
???

Dude, I don’t know. I’m weird.

It just sounds like “nodules”. I certainly don’t want to have too many nodules.

Never mind. Ahem When is the official Bodenplate release?

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Only the spitfire as I bought the games/modules as basic offering. I bought the botennplate one as the premium as it was the only one on offer. I don’t mind supporting with early access but they have a lot on their plate atm with 3 new maps and all the planes still to make an appearance. For the additional planes I will buy collectors planes in the sale as and when required :grin:

3 posts were merged into an existing topic: Flying Circus -The Spritual sequel to RoF!

Update 3.102

Dear friends,

We’re glad to report that the new update containing three new war machines are out. The first one of them is Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf.G German medium tank for Tank Crew - Clash at Prokhorovka project. It was one of the most commonly used German tanks and had an interesting mix of powerful weaponry and lacking armor, making its use in the sim somewhat peculiar. It also had an interesting feature - autonomous turret traverse mechanism powered by a dedicated petrol motor.

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The second one is the WWI RAF fighter bomber Bristol Fighter F.2B for Flying Circus - Volume 1 project. This airplane had good flight characteristics among the two-seaters, various armament and could perform a wide selection of tasks. Two modifications of this aircraft are included - with Falcon II and Falcon III engines.

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And the third one is another Flying Circus - Volume 1 aircraft - German WWI ground attack plane Halberstadt CL.II. This multifunctional machine had good defensive turret equipped with one or two Parabellum LMG 14 machine guns fed by large-capacity magazines. Halberstadt could have one or two forward-firing MGs and carry 12 kg and 50 kg bombs, camera for aerial recon and radio for aerial spotting.

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In addition to them, the update includes exterior textures in 4K quality for Bf 109 G-14 and Fw 190 A-3. There are also several important improvements in the full list of changes:

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  1. PzKpfw.IV Ausf.G is available to Tank Crew - Clash at Prokhorovka owners;
  2. Halberstadt CL.II (Mercedes D.IIIa (180 h.p.) and Mercedes D.IIIau (200 h.p.) modifications) is available to Flying Circus - volume 1 owners;
  3. Bristol Fighter F2.B (Falcon II (255 h.p.) и Falcon III (285 h.p.) modifications) is available to Flying Circus - volume 1 owners;
  4. Bf 109 G-14 has 4K exterior texturing made by Martin =ICDP= Catney;
  5. Fw 190 A-3 has 4K exterior texturing made by Martin =ICDP= Catney;
  6. User interface checkbox that disallows other players to occupy one of the stations of your tank in multiplayer works now;
  7. Main tank gunfire sound won’t be skipped while shooting at a maximum rate of fire;
  8. Tank traverse systems on player controllable tanks can be damaged now;
  9. Switching between main and backup gunsights on player controllable tanks happens correctly;
  10. Chalk slopes on the Prokhorovka map won’t visibly appear and disappear;
  11. Forests on the Prokhorovka map won’t visibly blink;
  12. Looking at an aircraft mirror at certain view angles won’t cause a severe performance drop that was noticeable at high visibility distance settings on low- and middle-end video cards;
  13. Destroyed ground vehicles on the GUI map are semi-transparent;
  14. Engine throttle control helper logic has been updated (previously it could limit the available engine power at high altitudes);
  15. S.E.5, Sopwith Camel and Sopwith Dolphin ailerons buffeting amplitudes at higher flight speeds have been corrected.
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Dear Friends,

After the recent release of the update 3.102 many of you wondered “why there are no new Bodenplatte planes”? There is nothing strange about it: the remaining three player-controllable fighters and AI-controlled bomber are the most complex and difficult to produce objects in the entire history of our team. But the more difficult is the task the more interesting is the result. At the moment we plan to make all these four planes available to you in the next huge update at the end of September that will also bring the important new features we’re working on at the moment. Here’s the rundown on their current statuses:

  • P-51D-15: cockpit texturing and flight model is in development.
  • P-38J-25: cockpit texturing is nearly finished, the flight model is finished, it will go to beta testing soon.
  • Tempest Mk.V ser.2: 3D model is finished, the flight model is nearly finished, it will go to beta testing soon as well.
  • B-25D (Mitchell II): 3D model is finished, we’re working on the last bits of texturing and turret animations, the flight model is in development.

The work on the Rhineland map for Bodenplatte is also progressing well and we’ll show you some of it in one of the coming DDs. We’re working on the new Career timeframe ‘Battle of Rhineland’ in parallel. Now let’s list the features that are at the final stage of development at the moment:

  • Switch to the newer F-MOD API version which we hope will fix the disappearing sounds issue right away or in the near future.
  • An advanced model of pilot physiology that includes complex fatigue modeling that takes into account G-overload fatigue, overload frequency, alternation of positive and negative overloads, wounds, having a G-suit, lack of oxygen and oxygen supply system. The model will also simulate a loss of consciousness and ability to control an aircraft after experiencing too sharp or too severe overloads. The algorithms it is using are based on the research of various institutes. The introduction of this model is likely to change the flow of air combat, especially in multiplayer. However, those who find it too difficult and unfamiliar will be able to switch it off as realism option (it will also be a server setting).
  • Air Marshal mode that is being developed especially for multiplayer will also enter the testing stage soon. When this happens, we’ll dedicate a special DD to it.
  • Improved AI maneuvering in a dogfight. Our new programmer is working on this (the recent formation keeping improvements are his work), but remember there is still a long way to go in this area.
  • Improved visibility distance of planes and ships. The main difficulty in the development of this feature was making the dynamic objects show at great distances without a steady stream of data reporting their position and orientation. Another important thing is to model the lighting of the airplane even at long range - we discarded the idea of having just black dots at these distances, where the visibility of an object is determined by the position of the sun, brightness and hue of the sky, haze, etc. All this is impossible to model having only a black dot. The distant planes flying at high altitudes will have contrails and ships will have visible wakes. It is also important to have more or less equal terms for owners of different monitors. Having completed all these tasks, we’ll increase the maximum visibility distance for planes and ships from 10 to 100 km and the resulting visibility distance will realistically correspond to the lighting and weather conditions.

As you can see, the Bodenplatte project is at the final stage and nearing release. Numerous changes and additions to be seen in the final version are more or less close to being finished. Therefore, the update 3.102 included the content that was ready and a minimal amount of changes - at the final stage nothing should divert the team from the main target. We don’t want our words to sound empty or unfounded, so today we can show you the in-game exterior shots of the P-38J-25 Collector Plane (that is included in Bodenplatte Premium, only version you can get at the moment), the cockpit of the British Tempest Mk.V ser.2 and the new German pilot in Summer 1944 uniform:

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Hello Dear Friends!

As you know, to work well one needs to have a good rest. While the summer season continues, and our colleagues go on vacation, I will tell you how important it is for a military pilot to be able to save and properly spend his strength during combat.

Probably you have already realized that in today’s diary I want to talk about our new pilot physiology modeling, which we are preparing for the release in the next update. Our Beta testers will receive this model for tests today.

About Pilot Physiology

The focus of the new physiology model is, above all, on a more realistic imitation of a person’s tolerance to high G-load. Although this is not the only change in the pilot physiology, you will most likely notice it first, so let’s talk about it in more detail.

As you know, we all are different, and each of us has different stamina, physical strength, and ability to resist negative environmental factors. Therefore, the ability of a particular pilot to withstand high G-load is, of course, purely individual, and depends on a good number of factors: age, state of health, fitness, whether a pilot slept well the night before, how much he ate and how long ago, and even what his emotional state is. Of course, we cannot collect all this information about you, and take all these factors into account in such detail; such a model would be excessively complex, although it would probably allow the player’s best immersion into virtual reality. Nevertheless, we found that the most reasonable approach would be to choose a certain averaged model of an average pilot physiology. By “average pilot” we mean a trained pilot in good physical condition, who often performs aerobatics. A large number of different medical studies with the collected statistics of experiments with pilots and volunteers come to our aid. Based on them it is possible to establish a “middle way” of the typical human tolerance to high G-load.

The first thing that all researchers pay attention to is the fact that the amount of G, both positive (when a pilot is “pressed” into his seat) and negative (when a pilot is “pulled away” from his seat and “hangs on the belts”) depends primarily on the duration of the G-load and on the rate the G-load was applied. For example, at a positive +6G the “average” pilot loses consciousness within the first 5-8 seconds, but the same pilot quite successfully sustains +5G for about 40 seconds, if the rate of G-load application was less than 1G/sec. However, if you create the same +5G in just 1-2 seconds, then loss of consciousness will occur in 5-7 seconds. In aviation medicine, this phenomenon is explained by the “hemodynamics” of the cardiovascular system. The body needs some time to mobilize and begin to effectively counteract overload. This is illustrated in the chart from the article written by Anne M. Stoll, “Human tolerance to positive G as determined by the physiological end points” published in The Journal of aviation medicine in 1956:

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In our new model of human physiology, all these factors are now taken into account. If a high G-load is applied within 1-2 seconds, the negative consequences (visual and hearing disorders) do not appear immediately, but rather with a 2-3 seconds delay, then a quick “crisis” follows, and then, after a few seconds, the body mobilizes and its ability to tolerate G-loads becomes better. This “crisis” can be avoided, or at least reduced, if you pilot more smoothly and create G-load gradually and slowly.

Here is another graph that shows how long an average pilot is able to withstand positive and negative G until he loses his consciousness. The blue line is a summary of data we collected as a result of our various medical studies analysis. Red dots are the results our new model shows:

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As you can see, pilots tolerate the positive g-loads much better than the negative ones.

In addition, now we also take the pilot’s fatigue factor into account, based on the data mentioned above. This means that every pilot’s maneuver performed with a large g-load is no longer in vain, and the more actively a pilot maneuvers, the worse he and his crew will suffer further g-loads. If the pilot is already pretty worn out by maneuvering combat, be aware that a new opponent who entered the battle will have a significant advantage, and maybe you should get out of the dogfight and catch your breath. This may take you a few minutes.

Another important part of this work is the reconfiguration of the visual effects of visual impairment. We brought it into a full compliance with the sequence described in the scientific literature. First, under the influence of positive g-load, a pilot begins to lose color perception (a so-called “grayout”). Then his peripheral vision field (or a “tunnel vision”) narrows, until it becomes completely dark in the eyes (a so-called “blackout”). The visual impairment is also accompanied by hearing loss. On a negative g-load, the effect of “tunnel vision” and loss of color perception do not happen, because, unlike a positive overload, there is no oxygen starvation of the optic nerve. But on the other hand, the pilot feels a rush of blood to his head, which is expressed in the appearance of a noticeable red tint of vision (a so-called “redout”), and the sharpness of vision also deteriorates.

I have mentioned a “loss of consciousness” several times already. Yes, now we are simulating this state, too. A pilot can lose consciousness at large positive or negative g-loads if the threshold of their physiological tolerance is exceeded (taking into account the duration of g-loads, the pace of their creation and accumulated fatigue). A harbinger of the loss of consciousness at the positive g-load is a blackout, although even having completely lost his eyesight, the pilot is still able to control his aircraft for some time. At the negative g-load loss of consciousness occurs more unexpectedly, and the only way to determine it in time is by a sharp deterioration in visual acuity. Studies have established that, depending on a number of factors, a usual period of a G-lock can be as long as 10 to 15 seconds, and during this time the aircraft will remain uncontrollable. Keep in mind that each subsequent loss of consciousness will cost you even greater loss of time and energy. WWII fighter pilots were very human, not Superman and they did experience pretty high G-loads even in piston planes.

Another feature of this model is an anti-g suit a pilot has. On average, according to various studies, the anti-g suit increases the physiological tolerance threshold to positive g-load by 1.5 - 2G, so pilots with the anti-g suits will certainly get a significant advantage in dogfight. The anti-g suit does not affect tolerance to a negative g-load.

In conclusion, I would like to mention that we also limited the pilot’s ability to bail out at the airspeed of more than 400 km/h, or under the influence of positive g-load of more than +3G (which is the physiological limit in terms of the ability of a person to get out of the seat). These numbers refer to a healthy pilot; in case of injury getting out of the cockpit will be even more difficult for a crew.

The effect of hypoxia model on g-load tolerance model has also been refined and will take air pressure into account more correctly.

Preparing for the release of a new physiology model, we understand that for some players it incomprehensible and not obvious at first. Therefore, we left you the opportunity to choose a simplified physiology model in the realism settings, which will work quite similar to the current model, and will not take into account the pilot’s fatigue, the hemodynamics of his cardiovascular system, or limit the pilot’s endurance according to the duration of g-loads or the pace of their creation. Also, in a simplified model your crew will not be able to lose consciousness. At the same time, this simple model will use the new reconfigured effects of visual and hearing disorders, and the magnitude of the g-load at which these disorders occur will be brought into line with the updated data from the new model.

We really hope that the new model of the pilot’s physiology will make the gameplay more interesting, and significantly change the tactics of dogfight. So, the players will now have to take care of the physical condition of the pilot and be more careful about active maneuvering, and this will take us one step closer to the reality of air combat.

Andrey “Petrovich” Solomykin – Lead Engineer

News from Jason

Bodenplatte Coming Along Nicely!

We continue to work on the BOBP map and its large list of airfields and urban areas which is something rather new for us. This map has been a challenge like never before and we have it functioning in Beta, but it has a little way to go still. However, our last three Allied planes are coming along nicely. Check out this beautiful formation of vintage American air power and a bonus shot of the Tempest in flight. The Tempest continues to be tweaked and improved after the first round of Beta testing and the P-38 is also in Beta with small tweaking necessary. The P-51D will also be coming to Beta soon. All three aircraft are quite complex. The different design philosophies of each nation have really become evident as we make more and more planes.

We must remind everyone that these planes are still a Work-In-Progress so some of these details in these images may change.

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Saddle Up Cowboy!

Our P-51D-15 “Pony” is nearing the Beta stage as we finish the cockpit and external model. Here are the first pics of the P-51D cockpit. Our model team has done another awesome job!

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Personal Images in Cockpits

Another popular request has been the ability to place a personal picture in the cockpit of your plane. We have now added this capability.

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New View Distance for Airplanes

Yes, by popular request, we have increased the visibility of distant airplanes. This has been a difficult technical challenge, but we think Sturmovik pilots will appreciate this new reality. Can you spot the far-off planes? We’re still tweaking the feature, but it’s in testing.

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Wow! This is fantastic stuff! So many good things coming. That Pilot Fatigue modeling is really interesting and thank goodness the AI is getting better ACM tactics.

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Very nice indeed :slight_smile:

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Regarding the G effects. I am thrilled and worried. We’ll just have to see what they’ve done but the chart worries me that the onset of degradation will occur too soon.

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Perhaps you can send your virtual alter ego to the gym for an extra leg day.

Perhaps something like a G warmup, like DCS simulates would help as well? We’ll see.

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Wait, what now?

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Right. I feel that my actual self is in pretty good shape. But one look at me and it is obvious that I am no fighter pilot. I am tall and skinny with a neck built for (female) supermodels. But I, in a plane with zero recline, am pretty happy at 8 g’s for several seconds. I am no fan of -4+ but I have experienced that and worse many times. The side effects are, shall we say, amusing. I once lost the feeling in, but not the use of, my left hand for about a minute. Most of my friends are older than me (50) and almost all are less prone to the occasional run. Yet I still have yet to meet anyone who has lost the ability to continue the push, or blacked out, due to G. There are visual degradations aplenty. But not functional ones generally. And the visual issues resolve themselves in a sea of stars nearly the instant the G is reduced. If they get this right, they will be the first developer to be anywhere close to doing so.

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You should be able to take any amount of normal (1-9) instantaneous G for a few seconds (3-6) before seeing grey out/blackout symptoms. That’s how long it takes for the oxygen that’s actively being used in your brain to run out. The difference is the rapidity of Loss of consciousness after those few seconds, and how quickly you are gonna come back. G tolerance varies quite a bit as they discuss, so its hard to have an individuals experience match up with the curve.

In my centrifuge class I was able to go up to 5 G’s resting without straining before I had any appreciable grey out/tunnel vision, there were others who had grey out/ tunnel vision at 3.5 G’s, and others who went all the way up to 7 with no adverse affects (that they reported). This was in a class of about 10 people all of various body types.

I guess I’m curious if they are accounting for a G strain of some sort which can add several G’s to your resting capability before grey out/blackout. With a proper G strain and a G suit (which only really helps with a G strain, if you don’t flex the muscles it doesn’t really help much) you can usually sustain up to 6-9 G’s for a good long time as long as you don’t get tired or behind the G strain, more than a minute in some cases. First BFM I ever did at IFF in a T-38 was a two minute 2 circle fight where we sustained 6 G’s the entire two minutes, I was hurting and exhausted at the end, but never really felt in danger of blacking out.

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Cool update. Looking forward to the release.

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I find it interesting that the P-51D is considered more complex than the Me-262. I would have thought the reverse.

As for g’s, the onset rate matters a lot. If they properly model the different responses based on how quickly the forces appear, and it’s not a simple “all day at 5g’s, 10 seconds at 6g’s” setup, that will make a big difference.

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