Intel 13 & 14th gen Issues

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His channel was very useful when I first got my new PC. Some of you may remember that I was seeing high temps when the CPU was under load. Based on what I learned from my fellow Mudspikers, and watching some JayzTwoCents videos, I seem to have it well under control now.

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Glad I still have a 12700k. :slight_smile:

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Yeah, Iā€™m going to stick with AMD for the forseeable future. My 5900X is still doing fine in VR and I am thinking about going with a 9000X3D series CPU for the next rig

Edit: I also recommend the Wendellā€™s level1tech video who did some serious research over the course of what appears to be half a year or so:

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Yes been thinking going AMD x3d cpu next buildā€¦ seems the Intel has some serious issues hereā€¦ I watched that video and it is not good for intelā€¦

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I might be considering AMD for my next build, as well. But, they also had an issue of CPUs exploding. Iā€™ve had no issues with my i7 13700k. In fact, itā€™s been outstanding. The only issue has been UE5.3 games not liking it in DX12.

Still, when I heard that one dork from Intel claim that ā€˜if your CPU isnā€™t going 100C or higher, youā€™re leaving a lot of performance on the tableā€™ I had red flag pop up in my head.

I undervolted mine a little and havenā€™t had issues.

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ā€œIf youā€™re not driving your car well into the redline before shifting gears, youā€™re leaving a lot of performance on the tableā€

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u rite.

Yeah, that was not something I want hear from a spokesperson of the world leading CPU manufacturer.

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Same. My 5900X seems to be chewing through it fine[1] - itā€™s like 3 years old now! (guess I canā€™t keep calling it my new machine anymore). You can always overload these things of course but, according to the DCS FPS widget, I am Gpu bound almost all the time (3080Ti). And, since my next one will be for the same purpose (DCS+) I like what I hear out of those X3D thing-a-ma-bobs.

[1] Not sure exactly why I was watching this recently but DCS + MT + 5900X + SMT showed all cores firing pretty well. Suppose I only noticed this because it was the first time I ever did [notice this performance].

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Funny we knew the voltage issues over a year ago.

Intelā€™s only confirming this to sway more 15th gen sales.

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Apparently the BIG customers werenā€™t getting satisfactory responses from Intel.
They started talking to the media.
Intel finally goes public with voltage.
Then quietly talks about the degradation issue due to manufacturing defects on Reddit, which no amount of software can fix outside maybe disabling whole parts of the chip via BIOS and that would have massive performance implications.

The failure to move onto the newer smaller processes like AMD, TSMC, etc have done caused them to eat up their margins as they kept trying to squeeze blood from a stone.

The stone finally cracked.

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the stone degraded.

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The thing that actually makes this so disappointing is that despite knowing about it, Intel refuses to stop selling/recalling the affected chips. I was an Intel customer for a long time but boy am I glad I went AMD last time.

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Sameā€¦

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Bought a 13700K last year - Naming it 13th Gen I knew there could be problems.

Been okay so far but never really stressing at 1440 / 60 - so like Falcon runs in low power mode.

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The best thing you can do, right now, IMO is to go into your BIOS and set you long duration power limit to 125. I did that months ago, no degradation in performance at all and lower temps. I also set my short duration to 253.

But, again, Iā€™m on an i7, I might be unaffected. This seems to be an issue with i9s by and large.

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So whatā€™s the summary without watching the videos? ā€œTLDWā€? Am I the only one who would rather read multiple pages than watch one YouTube video? I feel like Eastwood in Gran Turino sometimesā€¦

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I also would rather read a page written in formal or technical language rather than watching a ten minute video to gain one data point, or read an AI generated page in ā€œconversational languageā€ (Iā€™m being too nice, itā€™s actually grammatically correct gibberish most of the time).

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In short, Intel have manufacturing issues. They are currently in full litigation PR mode trying to pass the blame to customers.

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