Yes sorry.
Maybe it‘s worth mentioning that old Nvidia generations also support DLSS4. So getting a used 3090 or 40xx is a better option than getting previous AMD generations.
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DLSS 4 doesn’t look nearly as good on 30 series cards as it does on 40 or 50 series. The difference is night and day.
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Didn‘t know that. Why call it the same name then?
So, DLSS 4 works on 30 series cards but I guess the RT cores or whatever is used for the feature aren’t nearly as powerful on 30 series cards resulting in a worse picture. The direct comparison between the 3080ti and 5090 is staggering. While there was still noticeable ghosting on the 3080ti (same DLSS preset), it’s almost completely gone on the 5090. Only when you push it so far that the frame rate drops significantly does it show slightly
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Also I can’t in good faith recommend a 30 series card in most cases - 8GB of VRAM is not worth messing with unless you’re getting an excellent deal on the card!
At the same time, it’s hard to recommend the newer ones now:
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Yeah the naming is fishy.
But I understand that at the end of the day they are still faster than AMD’s stuff. So if you want power and don’t care about the price, Nvidia still rules.
Hell, if I weren’t poor I’d probably get a 5090, too. It is literally twice as fast as the 9070XT that I will most likely buy.
The 5090 is the only one where the gains have been continual. Even if the price has gone up astronomically compared to the 4090.
The problem is nvidia has done to the rest of the lineup (5070, Ti & 5080) what they did to the 4060 last time around - cut them down too far, relying on the architectural improvements to see any gains at all vs the last generation!
Urgh this is so infuriating. This screencap from JayzTwoCents’ 5060 video neatly summarises some things I hate about all this. I own a 3060 Ti. I understand the performance of even the 4060 Ti is likely to be better in some (probably newer) games due to architectural improvements. But cheaping out on the memory like that? 
At least, due to the cryptomining price increases, it is “cheaper” compared to what I paid for my 3060 Ti. But don’t compare it to a 1060. Or what I paid for my 970. Or my two 470s…
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To put it another way, the price increases from gen-to-gen in the 60 and 70 range is not reflected in the performance increase, while in the 90s it is.
For the 80s it peaked with the 3080, the last “good deal” for that range.
Now maybe the issue is that the 4090 and now 5090 are way too BIG…blowing the curve as it were.
I’d like to see them compare the 80s/70s/60 WRT the 90s/Titan to see. I know it’s still meager performance boosts, but I think we’d still see that while in the past the $499 card in next gen was faster than the $499 card in previous gen, we now get a concomitant increase in price. So instead of 15% more performance for same money, it’s now like 15% more for 15% more money.
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Which is better than the 25% price increase for between -5% and 3% performance increase for the 3060 Ti to 4060 Ti 
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Meanwhile prices of RX 9070 XT are dropping slowly.
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At least there are some good news!
I wanted to finalize the order of the PC this week but I am too busy with a few things at work and at home.
It will have to wait a bit longer, I am just hoping that the US tariffs situation doesn’t cause prices to skyrocket that soon.
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For now the tariffs are just causing the dollar to drop, which means computer parts get cheaper in Europe. And it looks like the EC is targeting very Republican areas/businesses, not Silicon Valley, CA with the response
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Just realized that the incredibly escalating trade war between the USA and China could cause electronics prices to go up worldwide at any time.
So on the short term, computer parts may get cheaper in Europe, but on the slightly longer term (months) everything will probably get way worse for everyone. On the scale of years, depending on what deals get made, the USA could actually reduce its trade deficit, likely after having had a recession.
Interesting times for sure!
I just wanted to rectify that there are no safe bets ever, and especially not now.
Just buy what you can when the price is right for you, don’t buy what you cannot pay and make sure you are as financially prepared as you can reasonably be for whatever is coming, regardless of which continent you live.
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In the meantime my local computer guy sent me an offer based on what I told him I’d like to have.
Basically the parts I chose, except he suggests using G.Skill RAM because they give 10 years warranty.
I’ll post the whole thing later.
Now I have to decide whether to pull the trigger or not… 2500€ before taxes, so close to 3000€ in the end.
It is the most expensive PC I ever considered buying, so I am a bit cautious. It is a lot of money and if I buy it, it will most likely be my PC for the next 6+ years.
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Yeah my last PC innitially was something like 1100€ (inkl. taxes) but that didn’t include the GPU. I upgraded to a 3080Ti about 8months later which was very expensive at the time. A real shame just how expensive GPUs have become because CPUs, Mainboards and RAM haven’t become that much more expensive all things considered.
The G.Skill RAM should be absolutely fine. I’ve used G.Skill in two of my PCs in the past but went with Corsair this time because of availability of 96GB kits
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Fully understood. I used to buy PCs at a 500-1000 Euro price point until I really got into Arma 2 and later Arma 3. Since then hardware costs have risen for me as much as a factor 5.
In hindsight I’d rather started earlier to spend more on hardware and enjoy the games and work environment better - compared to the time I spent in front of these devices, the Euro/hour ratio is not bad, even with an expensive system.
Good luck with your call on the situation!
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