My 1070 is about as old. Getting long in the tooth. The two thousand I heard rumoured for the top model is too rich for my blood though. Buy a car for that kind of cash.
So I might have to settle for a non Texas Instruments one or even a -70 again.
My 1070 is about as old. Getting long in the tooth. The two thousand I heard rumoured for the top model is too rich for my blood though. Buy a car for that kind of cash.
So I might have to settle for a non Texas Instruments one or even a -70 again.
Might be worth waiting for AMD this year, word has it that it could lay fire on the feet of Nvidia, though we’ve seen the very same rumours pan out to nothing before. Navi was a good hit though and forced Nvidia to move on the 2060/2070 lines.
Thought “Ti” was for Titanium? nVidia hijacking that for their VCard lineup, way back when.
New article at Tom’s Hardware says the 3090 will have 12 gb vram ?
Everything is speculation and rumor at this point. Looks like September 1st we’ll get some solid info.
12 GB? Screw that! I’m maxing out my 11GB in 4K quite a bit. Who knows what the magic number is but I’m guessing it’s not 12.
Yes, 12 would be an utter disappointment and would make me wish for RAM slots on card so I could just buy larger G-DIMMs and swap it up to 24GB. Modular everything!
Well, with 1TBps bandwidth on that VRAM, maybe you don’t need more…?
I have never got my head around memory bandwidth can you explain it
I’m hardly an expert, but the way I think is more bandwidth equals faster VRAM transactions and that would mean the GPU won’t need to cache as much gfx.
But I could be totally wrong.
Just throwing out my thoughts on why the 3090 got ”just” 12Gb VRAM but a very fast one at that. If that’s true.
Seems like Nvidia has focused on memory quality iso quantity, if you know what I mean. And I think there must be a reason…
Erm, no. Bandwidth can not compensate for the amount of VRAM. The reason is that the connection to all other memory (RAM or NVM) is orders of magnitude slower. The pure bandwidth is only a factor for getting data in and out of the GPU. Once you run out, you have to swap and then the system bus (pcie) becomes the bottleneck.
Yes indeed, I think rumour has it that PCIe4 will be the knees bees for the 30x generation. Also this week rumours were 20gb memory so I am not sure about that 12gb, also seems a bit low for what top of the line buyers will want…
They come in flavours with different amounts of VRAM. Both 20 and 12 gigs are options that i have seen mentioned.
Ok!
Will there be a 3000 series $TITAN$
But as long as the amount of VRAM is enough for the demands of the game, having more VRAM won’t result in a better performance, right? Only bandwidth will make a difference, or…?
Exactly, more RAM means you can run higher resolution or more complex anti-aliasing or better texture resolution, but as long as you have enough for what you are doing, having more will do zilch for performance. Bandwidth will have some influence, but at that point it becomes very application specific.
Having a bigger fridge lets you store more food, but has no influence on how quickly you can cook it.
I think the biggest positive of having too much VRAM is that you avoid ever having to put graphics card “work” on to the system RAM, or even worse, the page file on HDD/SSD. For example, I can load up DCS in VR on max settings, and its only going to use 8gbs of VRAM (max available). The game will run albeit at a chugging FPS. If you have a Texas Instruments 11gb card, I bet its also using all 11gbs of VRAM. It will run better partly because its faster, but mainly because less of the graphics demand is sent to the system RAM. The game is going to demand a certain amount of shader/texture/aliasing etc instructions, and if you dont have enough VRAM to hold it, it just gets moved to the next best resource. GDDR6 is alot faster (I think at least twice) than DDR4 ram, but it can only handle specific graphics related processes.
So the question is does having 10gb in a 3070 beat out a 2080 S 8GB that we will assume is a “faster” board (just for comparison sake)? The answer lies in what is the game/user demanding. IF the game is demanding 10+gbs of VRAM, then the slower card with more ram will most certainly perform better. If the VRAM demand is 8gb or under, the faster card would win. Even though the 80 series is faster, its having to use system RAM to make up for that VRAM shortage, which slows it down. I’d argue an 11gb 2080 TI will perform better than any 3000 series that has less than 11gb in 4k and VR for the same reason.
For these reasons, I think budget cards are about to get a huge performance boost. If the lowest end series has 8gb of GDDR6 VRAM, you can expect performance on par with a 2080 and probably better than a 2070 for much cheaper.
More is better. Especially noticeable a year or three down the road.
Bigger.
Better.
Faster.
More.
Words to live by…