Little bored so I tried to create quick little challenge to test your/my stick skills.
Create mission at Creech AFB.
Select slick F-16 (no pylons / weapons). 1k fuel.
What is your time from take off - max altitude - land (on the same field).
Anyone care to test their skills?
Attached mission made in current stable version. Give it a go and post track or max alt reach / time from T/O to Land. f16to.miz (7.7 KB)
f16to1K_map_Cac.miz (6.8 KB)
This mission is for caucasus map for those that don’t have NTTR.
It’s been a long standing fantasy of mine to have a Mudspike Air Rally where we all do exactly this kind of thing. Limited fuel to altitude. Dead stick spot landing challenge. Longest range endurance on X amt of fuel…etc…
Here I go with XP and Phantom [1000lbs of fuel, no stores weight despite they are displayed]
Takeoff and climb went well. I reached 35,050. Then I lost control (guess I lost the hydraulics with the engines) and glided uncontrollably towards the earth.
I need to try the Viper, but I cant fly it as I cant the Phantom
I don’t think Phantom has equivalent system to F-16 EPU (hydro pressure for ~10-15 min). So when the engines are off and accumulated pressure is lost/bleedover, big and heavy F4 turns into flying brick with all associated control issues.
Should be easy to make. Especially if you use your “star” power. I would think each “challenge” should be as simple and not time consuming as possible.
Is that the Hydrazine [sp?] thing they have, or related to it? I recall when the Viper was still new; we had these hydrazine kits in case something happened to one on the ramp, outside the back door. Looking back it amounted to nothing more that plastic trash bags duct-taped over the windows and vents. Wonder how that would’ve really worked
My first attempt:
EDIT - Invalid results - I did not deadstick land!
T/O 17:00:11 Alt reached 44,030 Land 17:03:30
Interestingly, I stalled at 44,030’ before I ran out of gas. At that point I went idle throttle and was showing 100 lbs. in the tank and a fuel flow of 900 lbs./hr. so I actually landed with my engine still running.
Full profile:
17:00:11 - Liftoff
17:00:21 - Accelerate to 380 then 3.9G pull to 86 degrees pitch
60 seconds after liftoff - altitude 38,580’
17:01:32 - Top of climb, idle power
Speedbrakes / gear / 3.0G spiraling descent (probably oversped the gear limits in the thicker air down low)
17:03:30 touchdown
If you flame out at the top and have to use the hydrazine - do you still get hydraulic power for speedbrakes, gear, and flight controls - or do they operate at a reduced capacity? That might explain why I was able to stay more maneuverable (high-G) during the descent…if I were on the EPU that might have changed the results…
LOL…so my second attempt I ran the engine at full AB until the engine quit. Made it to 45,660’ but then got in a 60 degree AOA stall and couldn’t recover.
PS - a lower G pull at the end of the runway gives you more energy during the zoom climb. Going from 4G to 3G made a difference of a couple thousand feet…
I would think each “challenge” should be as simple and not time consuming as possible.
