Sanity check on a new PC-build

My old i7 4820 has seen better days. DCS is stuttering horribly. Same for IL2. It’s time for an upgrade.

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X $415
H60 CPU Cooler $80
Gigabyte X570 AORUS Master $360
EVGA 850W GQ 80 Plus Gold Power Supply $170
G.Skill Trident Z Neo Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) $182
Corsair Force Series MP600 1TB SSD" $200
Tower $200

Total = $1,607

Out of old system, I’ll take out 1080TI Hydro and few SSD / HD / BlueRays.

My goal is to improve Valve Index VR performance.

Thoughts?

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Not sure how hot that CPU will run - but if you overclock definitely use a larger cooler - dual fan preferably.

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Love your choice to keep the TI. My old non TI 1080 Is still kicking butt

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Looks good

Thats a well respected sim and gaming CPU these days, a lot of bang for the buck. Seriously thinking of switching from Intel to AMD CPU later this year or next year … really not struggling at all CPU wise just now though.

An Intel 9900K or 10900K might edge it a wee bit in gaming benchmarks that are not relevant to most of us here, but will still have less cores and both those Intel CPU’s will run much hotter and need better cooling. Realy not seen any definitive Flight Sim benchmarks on modern AMD/Intel CPU’s … I betcha the MK 1 Human eyeball and brain would not detect a difference without a benchmark result.

H60 is a single 120mm fan rad AIO water cooler? Used one before, it would be fine I’m sure, but I’d be inclined to go for a double 120mm fan or triple 120mm fan rad for a bit of future proofing, especially as AMD seem to keep some socket compatibility for even future CPU’s with their next gen, so a more well specced AIO bigger rad would be beneficial and prudent to purchase for future use maybe?

Or go a dedicated water cooling solution, AIO water coolers are fine though and reliable, a 9900K or 10900K might need more cooling though, these run very hot.

No AMD expert on these new Ryzen CPU’s apart from realising they are a very good, acceptable choice, when time comes for my major upgrade will do my research, but maybe and perhaps, heard new Ryzen CPU’s are a bit more fussy for ram, usual 3200/3600 or higher speed seems to be fine from what I’ve provisionally read on this genre, for sure 32 GB is a good starting point these days IMHO, three rigs here with 32 GB, next upgrade I’ll probably go 64, but 32GB is enough for most simulation just now IMHO … we all know the story’s of FS2020 needing that for alpha acceptance (am on that too) but once final, might not need that? 32 GB as a min now for sure though.

Good luck and enjoy.

I’ve never had anything use over 16GB but DCS. Usually it stays below that, but I have flown missions here and there where it got to around 30GB!

Keeping the 1080 for now is a good idea, because we might see a new gen of cards in 6 months or so that would give you some remorse if you bought one today.

As for the SSD, I’ve had 2 models. I’ve got a pair of Samsung EVOs (an 850 SATA and a 970 NVMe) and a pair of WD Blue (1TB and 2TB SATA).

All 3 SATA models perform about the same. Much better than a spinning drive, but not nearly as good as the NVMe. My new mobo has 2 slots, so in the future I will trade up my old 850 Evo 500GB (which used to be C: and is now E:) to another NVMe.

Honestly, though, my games on C: don’t load much faster than those on the other drives.

One thing I learned about modern CPU‘s is that it‘s all about cooling. They will throttle up and down based on how hot tiny little bits in the core will get. This is fully automated to the point where manual overclocking is becoming pointless. The faster the heat is dissipated, the more clock boosting can happen. Also volume helps to store heat spikes. It is super fast paced these days. Like tiny little immersion heaters.
Go big and get good material.

NVMe drives are awesome. Make sure they stay cool. Much easier to accomplish as compared to CPU‘s, as old school knowledge still applies :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the suggestions. Local computer store (microcenter) has all of the parts and cheaper than online.
Here’s what I plan to pick up today.

ASUS X570-E ROG Strix Gaming AMD AM4 ATX Motherboa… 1 $279.99
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Matisse 3.8GHz 12-Core AM4 Boxed… 1 $399.99
G.Skill Trident Z Neo Series RGB 32GB 2 x 16GB) DD… 1 $178.99
Corsair Hydro H80i v2 Extreme Performance 120mm RG… 1 $139.99
Cooler Master MasterBox Pro 5 RGB ATX Mid-Tower Co… 1 $94.99
Inland Performance 1TB SSD 3D NAND M.2 2280 PCIe N… 1 $199.99
Corsair RM750x 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Mod… 1 $159.99
Subtotal $1,453.93

and yeah. my 1080Ti will have to serve for just a little bit more until next gen cards are released (and have hydro option)
I’ve added Corsair H80 so that should keep temp down in CPU.

The 1080 will still be good. Be careful the disk should be NVMe, which is better than M.2. You can see the difference in the notches of the connector.

That setup is nice!

Inland Performance 1TB SSD 3D NAND M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive Requires PCIe 4 for best performance

Check :smiley:

Oh I don’t know…once, when I was stationed in Germany, I manually overclocked a US computer by plugging it into a 220V outlet…it smoked! (literally). :open_mouth:

IABSN/NS:
About a year ago I went with the RTX 2080 and have found that to work very well. I use mostly the default DCS VR settings (add cockpit lighting on). Haven’t tried XP11 recently since the whole Spock thing (Vulkan…oops I said no snark) so can’t comment there.

Money is always an object…however, ere I am a year later still happy wit the card…just a thought. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Should be a nice set up. I’m running a 2080 which I believe is comparible to a 1080ti, and it rips in DCS. Even in Vr, stays at a solid 40/80 with high settings (ultra view distance, 4x MSAA).

I used to run 0xmsaa and have a PD of 1.5, but I found that in recent 2.5.6 versions it looks better and runs faster with max MSAA and a PD of 1. YMMV, but I would say that 1080ti will be just fine.

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The 1080TI will now only start to work, really. This is where you get the money back you paid for it. In the endgame.

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Let the building fun begin! :grin:

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A year ago I went with a “be quiet!” Dark Rock 4 for my 3900X …

It was so big that It blocked the RAM slot closest to the CPU. I was basically forced to go with 32 GB of RAM in the two available slots. :wink:

Re overclocking, I would overclock the heck out of my Intel CPU’s but I don’t touch my AMD CPU … they’re built for “core attrition” is what I like to call it. I don’t think liquid cooling is necessary.

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Installation went great…all the way up to a point of trying to turn on PC. Motherboard coming up with code 00. Which pretty much means dead mobo.

Damn dude, that sucks. I’m sure you googled around for the code, crazy that you got a bad board straight out of the box. My last board was ASUS and was great.

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I’ve been building PCs for 30 years and that’s why I get PC vendors to build my PCs for me these days. Ain’t nobody got time for that! :wink:

My last PC was from a vendor and with warrenty. But I’ve priced this one and they were asking $500 extra to build it. Oh well…at least it’s from a local store so I don’t have to deal with RMA process.

Pretty much the reason I go with “hydro” options for both CPU and GPU is for silence. I don’t need 747 taking off in my livingroom each time any stress is on PC.

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