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Yeah, those benchmark results are brutal.
Now the ball is in AMDs court, because I sure as hell won’t buy that for that price.
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There are no bad products, only bad prices.
If you can’t sell at a good price and make a profit, your processes are to blame.
Everything below the 5090 has been a let down in the price/performance arena. They all should have lower prices than MSRP, and on top of that the AIBs aren’t selling anything even CLOSE to MSRP.
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Seems like the 9070 XT is the only card worth buying at the moment… assuming you can find one at or near MSRP. We’ll see if they actually made enough of them.
Where is my $400 card? That used to be the sweet spot from my point of view - and they were always easy on the PSU as well…
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Yeah, probably going to do that.
…but then I rarely get the chance to play games on my PC these days, might just as well wait a bit.
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Feeling around the net is the 5070 SHOULD have been a 5060 in the $400 range or so and the 5070 Ti a 5070 if not 5060 Ti based on the performance offered.
The 5080 is what a 5070 Ti should have been, at $750 based going to maybe $900 for a way OC partner board with LED bling. Starting at $1000 for bare bones? Nope.
I’ve been buying nvidia xx70 cards since they started making them pretty much, never had an 80 or 90. Sometimes had Ti’s, usually not, but always in the $400-500 range. When I got my 4070, though, it had spiked to $600 because of the crappy market conditions.
I was able to leverage that, though, by trading it in for a 4070 Ti Super a year later for a net cost of like $400…so in a way, I got my $400 card upgrade. 
Looking at the current benchmarks now, only a 5080 would be a meaningful increase in performance but it’s waaaaay overpriced.
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So I get that the RTX 5xxx has been benching poorly compared to expectations and that it might not be a worthwhile upgrade from earlier RTX generations, but coming from a GTX card It has been a night-to-day upgrade. It is absolutely crushing it with all settings maxed in VR, pixel density at 2.0 resulting in crystal clear perfectly readable cockpits and usable MFDs while maintaining 80-100 fps even in busy multiplayer missions when playing DCS, without any ASW warping. It’s the most impressed I’ve ever been with a new card, although I only have had a few (a HD6990, R9 290 and 1080ti). I try to make these things last for a few years and hope that the VRAM will not bottleneck it soon. I do understand that the improvements come mostly from AI trickery instead from pure rasterization improvement but I’ll gladly be fooled for a good and immersive experience. I haven’t spotted anything that weird being made by the AI yet, except for some mild ghosting that I was already used to from ASW. I admit to not having tried frame-gen in any game yet, only been using DLSS for upscaling.
I get that it might not be worth it if you have something better than what I had.
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Unless you’re crunching video together professionally, the 9070 XT is the way to go.
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The AMD cards still lag in RT, so if you play a large number games with a lot of RT at high resolutions, the nvidia cards still come out ahead.
And yes, if you have a 3000 series card, or older, then you will see a large uplift in performance…but you’re still paying too much for it.
The Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 graphics card was released on September 20, 2018 with a launch MSRP of $699 (Ti was $999).
The Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 graphics card was released on September 17, 2020 with a launch price of $699 (Ti was $1199, 3090 was $1499 and Ti was $1999).
The 16GB RTX 4080 was released on November 16, 2022 for $1,199 US (no Ti release). The Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 Super was released on January 31, 2024, starting at $999 for the Founder’s Edition which was a much better deal.
The Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 was released in February 2025, starting at $999 for the Founder’s Edition that no one can find, again needing to pay $150+ to get a partner model in stock.
Adjusting for inflation:
2080 $880 in 2025
3080 $853 in 2025
4080 $1279 in 2025
4080 Super $1030 in 2025
5080 $1000
So not counting the abortive mess that had the unlaunched 4080, the price increased roughly $150 from the 2080/3080 to 4080/5080.
RTX 2070 October 17, 2018 $500, no Ti release
RTX 3070 October 29, 2020 $500, Ti $600 in 2021
RTX 4070 April 2023 $600, Ti $800
RTX 5070 March 2025 $550, Ti $750 (if you can find them for anywhere close to that, most are $150-200 OVER MSRP, representing a real increase over the joke that any MSRP cards were actually built)
I bought all my 70 series (and I owned a 2070, 3070, 4070, and 4070 Ti Super) for under MSRP aside from the 4070 which was $30 over I think.
TLDR is between the 3000s and 4000s nvidia got addicted to the crypto/COVID demand that skyrocketed prices and permanently reset their prices higher while still offering similar gen-on-gen uplift. So while 2070 to 3070 gave you say 20% more performance for equal cost, 3070 to 4070 gave you 20% more performance for 20% more money but now 4070 to 5070 is now more like 10% more performance for almost 20% more money.
In fact, here’s a video I found of Jensen Huang giving his marketing team their directives for gamer customers for the 5000 launch:
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