Total War: Warhammer

My teenage son is crazy for the WH (Game’s Workshop figures paint everywhere in his ‘pit’) franchise, so he picked this up. It’s an interesting direction for the Total War franchise, as most of the time I ever spent with it was either Roman’s or trying to zerg castles. The sea battles of Empire we’re pretty good, but apart from that it’s been a while for me.

Anyone else picking it up?

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One of those 360 degree gameplay videos. Kinda neat…

Yeah i bought it. Looking forward to it actually.

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Picking it up when its 75% off. I don’t know who’s running the marketing show at SEGA, but $67 for a videogame is overpriced

Well i have been playing and its good fun at the moment. I don’t think the game is overpriced, as i can see quite a bit of longevity in it. But of course mileage and value for money will be different for everyone so i totally understand people not liking the price point. Though all games now are seemingly expensive, even the ones i don’t like.

With the mod to play coop, this could be quite good fun. But my vampire campaign is going ok. However i am sure my lack of understanding and skill will see me kerb stomped soon…

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Yeah, my son’s report after 6 hours of play and throwing him off his PC late last night was that it was (wait for it) ‘Good’. Perhaps he’ll be a writer or a poet one day? :slight_smile:

I saw the 20% sale offer here (use the code WAR20 and it’s a Steam key):

https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/total-war-warhammer/

It’s nice because the ‘pre-order DLC’ actually is included for a week after release, which is a good move as reviews can be read first etc.

Stuck quite a few hours into it now. First few play throughs were brutal. I totally messed up my diplomacy and combined with a poor show of force i quickly became the stomping boy of a few factions.

Not much better at it now but i have managed to make it to the start of the end game mechanic (by no means the end of the game, just not giving away spoilers). And so with this new end game mechanic a huge shift in world wide diplomacy is moving forth which is keeping me on my toes.

I can see many hours of fun in this… until the f18 comes out of course… well maybe the f5 if i cant wait too long.

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EDIT: This might be the first Total War I will actually buy since the days of Empire/Napoleon and Rome II

(I do have the Total War : Warhammer Fantasy I and II but I got them for free)

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Same here, Haven’t bought a new one since warhammer I, Rome II and Shogun II

This one is so amazing I really have to revisit it. I did try again maybe a year ago or so but I couldn’t establish myself in the early game so I gave up. Shogun II is the only total war that I actually managed to beat.

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Ah! Yeah indeed

Would you want to do some skirmishes? I am crap in battles but I love playing even if I lose. :grin:

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Would absolutely love to. I am installing it right now. I will however have to leave today to go to SIL’s home for a few days and take a vacation also from there. So I won’t be available until next week’s weekend at the very earliest. Still, looking forward to our session!

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Oh absolutely no stress nor pressure. I leave for Italy on the 19th and come back the 27th so… There will be time.

I come home on the 19th :zany_face: I hope you will have an absolutely amazing time with friends and loved ones.

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I hadn’t played any Total War since the first Shogun, but then they released the Warhammer games and I bought all of them, most DLCs, and sunk a combined 500+ hours into them. In fact I still play TWW3.

TW40K might become the first 40k game that I play. Although I share the skepticism many people have, if WH40K and Total War gameplay mix well. We will see I guess, I am carefully optimistic.

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Aw thanks! Same to you and your family, man. :people_hugging: :christmas_tree:

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Oh the offer extends to you obviously! If you want to do some light skirmishes or battles, I’m here!

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BY THE EMPEROR

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So what would be a good starting point if you never played any Total War game? Are the older games less complex. What’s the best way to learn the mechanics?

So that’s a very hard question to answer as, while the genre did keep most of the basic concept, every game had its own specialty.

And to really reassure you : every game has a very thorough, complete, crystal clear tutorial to help you understand every game mechanics.

From a certain point of view I’d say “play them all in the release date order”. You can very easily get all of them for cheap during sales.

But from another angle, that’s very redundant - while still being pretty awesome, I’m a sucker for complete series😎- because as Creative Assembly (the creators) made game after game they never stagnated and every game did improve on the formula.

To avoid writing an essay or bore you to death (which in retrospective I might still have done) , I’d say according to your preferred era (it does play a very strong role in how much you can immerse in the setting or even be proficient as many features are historically relevant if not outright correct) pick the second title.

I’ll explain : Shogun was the first and awesome (I had it ORIGINAL back in the day) but you can see how it aged poorly. Scope, graphics, playing area, and overall grand strategy layer are all crippling small - and to be fair Shogun 2 gets to be one of the most awesome titles ever. Improving on literally everything without a single fault.

Medieval? Same story. I bought the first with its expansion when it was released as a bundle and went full crazy for it. Beating it twice. Hundreds of hours spent on it.

But the second it’s overall much better, even if a multi-hundred-hours player can see how a little amount of minor changes didn’t necessarily improve things. A new player would never notice them which makes it a perfect game to start with too.

Rome or Rome 2? Same discussion.

With Empire and Napoleon it gets harder to tell. Pick both - while having a common timeline they offer very different things and vastly change the entire game feeling.

Then you have weirder titles like the three Warhammer fantasy which are all extremely worthy! But again, the main thing is : you have to love the setting.

Mind you - up until Empire there was no 3D ship battles, just statistics of how the two forces faced each other. The more ships you have (or the better ship’s quality/generals) the higher the chance of winning. With Empire, and the title following it → Rome 2, you can choose to managed also sea battles in 3D.

And in any case every game allow you to just concentrate on the grand Strategy layer and leave 3D battles to the automatic resolution (which is not totally random, it does fight well, honestly). You always have the chance to save before every battle so you can also cheeky your way out of things and so on.

Extra credit : If you want to completely give up on any form of social life/interactions you can easily check ModDB and see the absolute mind-boggling amount of mods (FREE mods) that have production values equal if not superior to the actual released game. But if you want to push realism don’t miss the Darthmods. They are the pinnacle of Total War. I am not kidding. That stuff is superb, perfect, extraordinary.

Empire is a staggering better game (and also you can tailor it to your needs so minutely) with Empire: Darthmod.

It does not just add units, it literally fixes sensitive areas of enemy AI, bullets behavior, and both strategic and tactical level.

But you will find (mostly for Medieval 2) total conversions for Lord of the Rings settings, Game of Thrones, First world War, the obvious Star Wars stuff, and much much MUCH more.

In short : any game you will pick will do its very best to charm you, I promise you that. But honestly you want start playing something that speak to you in a very personal way in historical terms.

If you have only a passing knowledge of the period you might feel overwhelmed or unconnected which is a shame.

Personally, if you haven’t played Medieval 1 and 2, Rome 2, and Empire you are really losing on some of the best strategy games the world has to offer.

And that’s without even beginning to touch the Multiplayer : competitive, cooperative, skirmishes, historical, and so on…

But that’s just nerd me.

Edit: sorry for the typo, got cramps while typing on the phone. Will correct them gradually.

Edit 2 : Wheeew, done. Sorry for the wall o’text, but I couldn’t honestly have written any less. If you have any other questions at all feel free to ask. I must have over 3000 hours in all games combined. If I know an answer I promise I will answer.

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