Tropical Storm / Hurricane Florence / update Michael

Quite a fearful blowing, gusting wind last night. I would write more, but the roaming charges from Oz are unbelievably high.

Really interesting video from the eye showing the stadium effect


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Some pretty amazing images here:

Some new post-storm satellite imagery has come out. This is the house we stayed out down in Port St. Joe a couple years ago:

After the hurricane, it looks like sand goes all the way up through the community, and the roof is partially torn off the house next to it. I don’t know what happened to the house to the right
it is completely gone (pulled out to sea?)
but I don’t see the debris from it.

That’s crazy. I don’t get subjected to much like that up here - the odd winter storm that can know out power for a couple of days. I know that with climate change it is only a matter of time before that becomes more of a reality here. Need to get my kit together before that happens!

https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/michael/index.html#9/30.2543/-85.2100

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I wonder how many F-22s got damaged or destroyed beyond repair
 Wowza
 (some “sources” are reporting as many as 17 might have been at the base)

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“Maintenance”, OK. Not much you can do with a jet without engines. “Safety reasons”??? I wonder what that means. One would think that some timely waivers would “fix” that?

Still, if it was a clunky pilot seat locking latch or a weight-on-wheels override switch that might acute weapons systems
OK, I can see that.

(Did you see how I tied in two other completely different threads
:sunglasses:)

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ooh look who’s had enough coffee today!

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Some crazy footage of the damage here


That is surreal. Wonder how many of the structures that survived will still end up being razed because of structural damage?

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Powerful video. Very reminiscent of Andrew.

Some interesting footage taken from a hotel just north of Tyndall. I don’t know how smart it is to stand next to those huge glass windows
but it shows how ridiculous the winds were


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That was some scary winds. :hushed:

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I know these articles aren’t the favorite of some of our readers here at Mudspike
but they do shed a little light here and there.

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Interesting article Beach. As they get older no matter what they do with the F-22’s regarding operational availability it is going to continue to decline. The loss of the ones at Tyndale wouldn’t be anywhere near the issue if they had bought the 750 they initially planned.

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Conversely, also increasing the total program cost. For something that hardly gets any use. And costs a fortune to keep in the air. So while it’d be nice to have more of them, the past 20 years have kinda justified why we didn’t get more – not to mention how hard the USAF has pimped the F-35, which was a huge reason why the number got capped to begin with.

So, likewise, this most likely wouldn’t have been an issue had they stationed these aircraft in a slightly less volatile area, like Nevada or Idaho. That’s what they did with the F-117 and I don’t recall any natural disasters taking those out, despite the incredibly small number of aircraft built. I’ll add the caveat that it’s not all the USAF’s fault, as decisions like that are often politically motivated by Congress rather than practical or rational decision making.

Not faulting the USAF. They always ask for more and end up having to do with less because of the public outcry over cost and Congress always sides with the public. 750 was probably overkill but 187 was definitely never going to be enough for the long term.

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USAF Had Faulty Data About Whether Hangars Full of F-22s Could Survive Hurricane Michael

Well
that is a MOTO statement if I’ve ever heard one. Obviously if somebody said, “Hey Wing Commander, you know this hangars where our new shiny airplanes are parked
yeah
um, they are not rated for the winds we are expecting.”, I’m pretty sure he/she would have gotten the ones that could fly (duct tape) out of there.

A Navy guy sticking up for the USAF
I know
one of the seven signs of the apocalypse

True enough. Have you ever been to Tonopah? I drove through it twice. If Fort Huachuca hadn’t already claimed the title of In the middle of nowhere", Tonopah would have had it hands down. I think they were more concerned with secrecy than unlikelihood of natural disasters. :slightly_smiling_face:

triggered

Those guys at 2RCC can kiss my shiny metal ***.