VR News 2023

The Aero is not using Windows Mixed Reality (WMR), it uses SteamVR and its own software stack. @Troll would be able to say conclusively, but I always thought it seems a good set-up software-wise (and hardware, it was more the price and that seems to be solving itself over time).

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I like Norm’s stuff - he’s luckier in that he’s part of a bigger network (the Adam Savage thing) so I think it allows them just to say what they like a bit more without so much danger of being ignored by vendors.

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Good thing. I was tempted originally but just didn’t think it would be 4X better than my G2 (it was/is 4X what I paid for the G2).

Hopefully I’ll be able to fly at night with these lenses/tech: the G2 isn’t great for mostly dark scenes; lights (on ships, streets, etc) are ugly. At least how I have to set it up.

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Yeah, I hear him saying that… But cutting the price in half, like that…? Sounds a lot like price dumping to me.

No, it’s not WMR.
Varjo uses OpenVR(SteamVR) and OpenXR.

Me too. He’s a pro and knows his stuff as well as how to present it to the viewers.
He tested the 3D printer that I just got. I did watch a bunch of influencer vids about it, but his was the best.

Yeah, this stripper will tell me how she really feels about me… :wink:

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Watched the Norm video and interesting stuff. If Norm did ‘Here’s a flight sim at night, let me look at the dials…’ seductive dance then I’d be throwing dollar bills like crazy. The glare of the Beyond does worry me a bit for sure, but the size and comfort look really nice. It’s good Barbie looks great, but what about a Bae 146 during dusk? :slight_smile:

Reviewing it next to the Pimax Crystal seemed almost cruel, e.g.

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Yeah, we need to get Norm hooked on flightsims. :+1:

Re OpenXR - does it mean that it can reproject from 30 (and 22,5) fps as well?

How is the quality of the reprojection?

Thanks :vr:

Didn’t realise that - thanks. It’s quite a while since I read the full low-down. I must admit it is very tempting, it’s just that there are some exciting things around the corner - and they may be expensive, but affordable. If I buy this, I can’t justify spending a similar amount again for a couple of years.

That was my justification for spending over £1k on Index (with a third station).

PS - Despite some agro about something I couldn’t be bothered to check a couple of years ago, Norm and his buddy (can’t remember his name) are guys I have always listened to and taken as credible references for headset info.

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Something is Up in The World of VR…Competition is getting Fierce!!!
Pimax Offers up to $800 back on trade in Program

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finally some money dance. once VR headsets will be down below 300€ [including VAT] ( as promised long time ago :wink: ) then let me know :slight_smile:

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The Varjo terminology is Vertical Synchronization of 45 and 30 FPS. You can then use Motion Smoothing, which is the reprojection in the Varjo world. I think 45 with smoothing works very well. I can only compare to what I remember from the G2 and I think the Varjo solution is better. But bear in mind that I’m comparing the G2 from at least 2 years ago, and the Varjo of today. I have upgraded the PC hardware since then and for all I know, the G2 reprojection may have evolved as well.
I haven’t used the 30 FPS synchronization that much.

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This is one thing that really frustrates me. It seems selling stuff is a lot easier in the US and maybe here in the UK in cities and large towns, but here in the sticks I always struggle to sell anything - even at rock bottom prices.

I would love to sell previous headsets and that would mean the Aero would be a cert, cos the headsets I would sell (in that case Quest 2 and Index) would easily take up most of the cost. I already tried to sell the Quest 2 - with loads of extras - for a measly price and didn’t get a single enquiry - though not on ebay as it’s too easy to get done over on that. As in untrustworthy buyers who already have the upper hand in disputes.

I did manage to sell my original Quest locally, but things have changed since and people are watching their pennies, too.

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I turned reprojection off in the G2 a little ways back; kinda ugly (not sure what happened; used to be better).

Last few flights In DCS it ran well enough not to need repro?! Cool, cus it was really distracting at night; vertigo is fun (when you’re not really gonna die) but vertigo + squiggly things crawling inside your headset was annoying.

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Some seemingly suspicious rumours about Pico 5 resolution has it:

Pico5 2560x2560, Pico 5 Pro 2560x2560 and Pico Max 3840x3840 + display port

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I’d happily buy another Pico headset, as long as they don’t reduce the FOV. I think they did a great job overall with the Pico 4, and at that price point.

I’d pay more for better specs from them without hesitation - just as long as the price doesn’t go too high.

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What numbers…

I run my G2 supersampled to 4000x4000 so I wonder how would that look in the Pico Max :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Not sure anyone posted this here, but Helisimmer has a review of the Varjo Aero and it has comparisons to the HP Reverb G2. He has a similar graphics card to what i have, and his view makes an upgrade tempting. Base stations though. I don’t wanna purchase 'em :slight_smile:

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And now I find myself suddenly sitting on a fence that I didn’t know existed before.

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So what you thinking @Fridge? Bigscreen for the super light googles but a risk of glare flying at night, or the Aero with price drop for the nice build quality/resolution but perhaps a limited vertical FOV? I’m sort of not counting the Crystal as think it looks pretty huge.