Warhammer 40k thread

This is the stuff i listen to a lot. The ai voices can be a bit irritating but the stories are always interesting

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I quite enjoy this gent’s videos, they have a lot of old lore in them, and I love the way he presents them “in role” if you will.

(42) Oculus Imperia - YouTube

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This was the novel that sold me on WH40K.

It’s obviously a Tau book. But what got me was seeing the Humans through the Tau’s eyes. Here the Astartes weren’t shiny, caricatured knight-errant archetypes. They were filthy, dull-witted, brutes haunting ancient, mouldering starships with their superstitious barely human tech adepts.

I’ve read a fair amount of WH since then. But this is the book that mostly truly captured the grim darkness of 40K to me…not through bombastic shouts, but through furtive glimpses stolen through the eyes of the outsider.

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Another fascinating thing about Warhammer 40k from a lore point of view is that it seems to be chock full of unreliable narration.
Even the lore bits of the rule books are usually written from a certain point of view, and you can never be sure if what you are reading is actually the truth, or maybe written by someone who wasn’t informed properly, or straight up propaganda.

That gives GW (and others. There are loads of fanfics) some wiggle room for retcons and so on, and say “yeah, that was true all along”.
Or even: “That might be true or not”.

Sometimes it is painful of course.
I know more than one Necron player who is still furious about one of the retcons concerning their lore (I don’t really care, both stories are roughly equally ridiculous, insane, horrifying, badass, and thus entertaining for me), and as someone who kinda liked the Tau best some of the changes done for that race made me less than happy, too.

The cool thing is that when you talk about 40k and the lore doesn’t quite line up, you can just shout “that’s propaganda, all hail the (insert favourite authority here)” and most people just grin and nod.
At least in my experience. I admit that the fandom sadly contains some… quite questionable people, too. Some of the worst people I know play 40k. But so do some of the best, maybe not 40k’s fault. At least that’s on the piece of paper that my commissar gave me.

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Absolutely agree!

ROFL, brilliant! :grin:

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Dammit, y’all made me think about 40k again.

I had not read that much about the Votann yet, so I did.
My main goal was to see if they could possibly take the Tau’s spot of being the least evil faction in 40k, or if they are more like the Imperium or the Aeldari.

I think they fit in quite nicely. They are not very evil on surface level (not Drukhari or Necron level) but boy it got dark quickly. There is some really grimdark stuff in their lore.

I think the T’au are still somehow the least evil faction. (A colonial empire with a strict caste system, mind control, secret police and a few other not-so-nice attributes. For people in the 40k universe that sounds awesome).

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who the hell are the Votann … new one for me

EDIT just checked …
they are dwarves, or squats as they used to be called, think they were removed in the second edition.

I would agree with theTau being the least “evil” but in 40k its all degrees of grayness
I would say the only really neutral race are the tyranids, they are just doing what comes naturally and eating, not really any malice there, doesn’t matter what race you are to them, you are just potential biomass

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You guys are a bunch of nerds. Love it!
Wish I was a nerd

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I agree.

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There is still time brother

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:laughing:

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You do need to pick a side though.

There is only one side.

For the emperor! CLEANSE THE XENOS FILTH

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Okay, taking notes now :grin:

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Thank you. I’ve been thinking about reinstalling it and giving it another go. I think the hardest part for me was figuring out which cards to convert to action points and when. I also had a poor understanding of my units’ strengths and weaknesses. Battlesector has been helping in that department. The turn-based mechanic felt different from those of other turn-based games. I can’t quite place my finger on why. It could’ve all been in my head. :sweat_smile: Finally, the game is brutal; it punishes mistakes with glorious death! I guess such is the life of a space marine.

BTW, Deathwing was fun. It was the only other game, besides FEAR, that had me literally attempting to peek around corners of the screen. I laugh at the sight of someone seeing me leaning while staring at my monitor. :grin:

How familiar are you with the Grey Knights? I ended up quitting Chaos Gate after the Bloom spread too far. I think I struggled with understanding my units’ strengths, and despite my best efforts, I couldn’t seem to keep the Bloom at bay.

Either way, 40K rulz! “Waagh!”

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The T’au are down right evil. Ethnic cleansing, mind control, and a bunch of other nasty stuff. They’ve become a lot more evil in recent iterations of the lore and always had really positive catchphrases that do a very good job of demonstrating just how scarily effective propaganda can be. The Etherals rule the T’au with polished iron fist, but an iron fist all the same.

However, the flipside, is that the Farsight Enclaves? Yeah, they’re actually kind of decent. Commander Puretide warned Farsight not to trust the Etherals, so Puretide was definitely one of the good ones.

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They are absolutely evil. They would literally be the most evil faction in almost any other SciFi universe.

Yet somehow in 40k everyone else is SO evil that in comparison it makes the T’au look almost nice.

I mean: the bar is down in hell basically. Regular real world 1940s Nazis would be the good guys in the 40k universe.

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There is nothing ‘good’ in the 40k universe. I mean Space Marines, despite all their piousness and holier than thou ‘honour’, the very means of creating them is based on institutionalised child abuse.

Every single faction is evil, but at least the forces of Chaos are honest about it. Blood for the blood God. Skulls for the skull throne.

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And if they can’t win…. Just call in an inquisitor and order an exterminatus :grinning:

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There is a story about space marines rushing to get a downed brother to medical aid and they quite literally run through a crowd of people killing and maiming quite a few.
I forget where i read or heard this but they don’t see civilians as anything “human”

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Purge the heretic, the xenos and the mutant … but sanctioned psykers are ok because we need them to guide star ships :grinning:

The imperium of man :rofl::rofl:

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