Will Crash for Youtube Views?

Agreed.

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Right there with you. The ā€œlook at meā€ crap has gotten old. Like so many other social platforms, the change from what it was initially started as, no longer makes it something seek out. Unless I need to learn how to fix something.

Yep. A suspended jail term will not drive home the lesson that is needed. Making examples of people’s poor choices needs to be brought back.

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I’m a bit confused…
Will he plead guilty to staging the crash? All I see is that he’s pleading guilty to obstructing the investigation, by removing the wreckage.

I dont condone violence, but the fact that people are victimizing some of these YT content creators for how the public responds to them is a great concern.

Prime Example Tanner Cook,
Literally pranks people without their consent, often the pranks are borderline illegal and immoral. One guy didnt appreciate it and shot the Prankster, public is siding with prankster who monetized peoples illegal torment and suffering for years. Saying he didnt deserve to be brutally shot, etc. Its a double sides blade, as malicious wounding and discharging firearm jn view of public and on private property can also not be an allowed response to someone bugging you, as it sends the message that harassment is grounds for being shot.

But This guy, had that plane crashed on someone hiking, or glided into a populated area, even if it didnt, its still the fact that he knowingly endangered the lives of anyone within so many miles by leaving his plane uncontrolled.

The public defends him blindly stating no one was hurt, etc.

Nah, no one was hurt, but all it takes is for one person to show others this type of behavior is rewarded and has no reprocussions, then people will recreate this type of event, and what are the odds of those recreations having no injuries, casualties and property damage?

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This. Nearsightedness will kill people if some common sense isn’t based into some of those thick skulls.

If this kind of thing keeps up, I’m wondering how long it will be before governments - or their representatives - start passing laws to make YT/Google responsible for not removing such videos.

tbh I’m surprised it didn’t happen already.

BTW the Red bull Pilots that ignored FAA Declined Flight Plans and decided to do a stunt anyway resulting in plane crashing,

They are also facing Major Charges, but afaik no Jail time. (Licenses were also revoked.)
BTW The Pilots are Taking the Charges,
Red Bull has zero charges against them, and has terminated their contract.

I think we have to keep sight of the fact that the entire point of ā€˜social media’ is ā€œlook at meā€ā€¦ Tik Tok is probably the egregious example.

As long as we (including through our elected representatives) let them get away with their current business model nothing will change. The parent companies must share a portion of the blame because the platforms are deliberately designed to ā€˜push the same reward buttons’ as gambling, People are literally addicted and like most addicts have to keep upping the dose to satisfy that addiction.

Have to say personally, I just don’t get it.

I look at the vast majority of videos that they put on my recommended list and think ā€œwhy would anyone ever want to watch that?ā€

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Anyone here do the TikTok benadryl challenge?

If no, then I’m still in the right place.

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Literally do not know or care to know about that challenge.

Wheels

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I believe their stunt is a bit different in terms of having more controlled conditions (mitigating risk to the general public), and IMO perhaps the FAA should have gone further to work with them and give them the airspace/TFR they requested and approval. Obviously without that approval and restricted airspace they should not have gone ahead and done it anyway. Their revocations should have been expected and is justified IMO. Jail time, probably not IMO.

That Trevor Jacobs guy endangered the general public, took no measures to mitigate risk, lied to investigators and the general public, and interfered with the crash investigation. He should absolutely be revoked, never touch an aircraft again and face jail time.

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from my understanding, the airspace wasn’t closed, nor was the ground level,

the plane that had autopilot fail and crash into the ground could’ve just as easily crashed in a populated area, film crew, or bystanders, not to even mention the pilot, who narrowly missed being goosed went the plane when into a negative AoA pirouette.

the Same premeditated decision to disregard safety rules for views / monetization.
the Same risk factor, leaving your aircraft with no pilot in an uncontrolled state intentionally,
the only difference is they cooperated, but they still broke laws when they decided to proceed.

FAA Told the team leader under no circumstance is there allowed to be an uncontrolled aircraft.

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I knew they hadn’t been able to get the airspace closed, but for some reason I thought they’d performed the stunt over private, access controlled property. If not, that alone is definitely a deal breaker.

You’re right, I’d forgotten one of them almost become mincemeat.

The Redbull Team knew over a month in advance that they were not allowed to try the stunt, FAA Issued them a letter stating they could not, and actually told them to cease rehearsals as well.

The Team lead made the conscious decision after being told ā€œnoā€ to do it anyway.

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The point of social media is to attract as many people as possible for the sole purpose of extracting information pertaining to their lifestyle, preferences, etc. to sell that information to partner businesses so they can run targeted advertising.

As much as I hate the lengths that some people go to in their quest for making a living off of YT, let’s not forget that companies like Google and Meta have gone to extraordinary lengths to engineer their platforms (that doesn’t just go for Facebook and Youtube, Android is an issue as well) in a way to get the maximum of engagement out of users. They are meticulously made to be the technological equivalent of crack. However, attention is a limited ressource in this game, so people making a living off of YT find themselves in a kind of arms race to fight for the attention of users. It is a perverse ecosystem of extreme and fierce competition and it brings out the worst in people (anybody remember that Logan Paul character and his episode in Aokigahara?).

Blaming everything on the Youtubers themselves negates the responsibility of corporations for knowingly bringing these blights onto humanity, which, by the way, earns them metric ****tons of money per second, all while being able to conveniently pass the blame onto content creators.

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@piper, that was very funny!

For my part, I agree with everything said here. (I AM in the right place!) I’ll add that endangering people on the ground, while obviously criminal, is not what is egregious here, to me. The simple act of faking the mechanical failure in such a flagrant way should be grounds for a permanent revocation of all flying privileges, period. Being simply stupid is generally fine, or at least forgivable. Planning and executing a knowing, willful violation with such grandiosity and wrapping it in a lie should never be.

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The point of Entertainment. Social Media is just one platform for entertainment. People did stupid things way before the internet, but now the audience can explode to crazy levels within days. It’s all been there before, but it’s now being accelerated to the extreme.

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Sorry, but I have to disagree.

Entertainment is the vehicle, the worm that is used to disguise the hook. The purpose of social media is not entertainment. If it were, we’d all be paying for it. We are not, therefore we are not the customers of social media. That is the key difference to media like linear television formats that we grew up with. Those are either produced by companies that are paid for by their audience or by state institutions like the BBC which is a public service corporation.

The purpose is to extract as much data of as many users as possible. What we as users of social media think about the content matters precious little as long as we keep coming back for more. The whole distinction may seem like pedanterism, but it is what turns paying customers into means of production.

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