Air Hauler 2 for X-Plane discussion thread

35 years of it and I only have about 3.5 hours in an actual tower cab, not counting initial [sim] training. That RL time was mostly to collect bets on lost golf matches the tower dudes owed in our Tower vs RADAR (‘Up’ vs ‘Down’) matches, way back when.

Did have an F-102 drone blow up and throw me into the tower [bottom] elevator door once (concussion from the destruct package in the nose when they said, “oops, we’re loosing it - hit the big RED button”). Not that it’s related, just recalled it. << Self Thread derailment?

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Me aeropuerto, su aeropuerto.

Dang it, they all look good. That Pangorn ILS chart looks simple enough, cept for those brown/tan lumpy things. One-liner minimum’s section; there’s an excellent chance I’ll find a runway no matter which way I turn out of the hangar, etc.

So this is weird. I fired up X-Plane to take those ORBX photos above. Closed it out, and was going to fire it up again to take some pics of KCLM - and X-Plane asked me for my serial number. When I entered it, it said it was unauthorized and to contact X-Plane support (???). Totally weird. I didn’t update and have been running X-Plane 11.50b4 for the past week or so.

So as of now, I’m locked out of X-Plane 11 until I hear back from Laminar… :angry:

Looks good! I didn’t see that on your list above (ILS, lights, etc)?

Weird! That must mean that AH2XP is out tomorrow? :slight_smile:

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Yeah - the Air Hauler 2 database, which I think pulls from the P3D database, does not show KEAT as having an ILS, but it does in real life. Might be that the P3D database is out of date…

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Dang it.

!! Hold on, exploding out of control Delta Daggers? Back up the truck! You’re going to have to write up a longer war story than that summary! Story time! :smiley:

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Dang…I was having so much fun researching this thread and now I’m locked out of X-Plane for some reason. I wonder if my wife’s VPN triggered something unusual on the Laminar Research end or something. She’s been remoting in to her work computer via VPN. We’ve noticed it sometimes screws with the rest of the connections in the house…but not always.

Alrighty…so I did fire up the sim (it lets me play 15 minutes in DEMO mode…lol…but all my “stuff” is still installed) to check out KCLM - Fairchild International…and it sure is a looker! Beautiful location…and I love me some ocean!

Looks like it does have a significant displaced threshold to runway 26. Full runway length is 6,347, but subtracting 1,354’ leaves about 4,993. Plenty of room for most planes, but probably not for some heavies. But again, we can always move if we get big enough.

Love the mountains just the south of the field…

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How much has to be true? Multiple war stories perhaps?

Not a big deal, really. Was a controller at Holloman, AFB, early 80’s. They tested all kinds of stuff there, and within the neighboring White Sand’s Missile Range:

Ejection seats (on a high-speed rail - seen that several times)
Stealth fighters
Patriot missiles

And related to this story – AIM-9’s. That’s where the -102 drones come in. Runway 22 (I think, been a while) was the slab they launched them from.

They had an explosive package in the nose for, well, times when they weren’t going where they were supposed to go. And probably other reasons. In this case somewhere just prior to rotation. They used that runway cuzz it pointed out towards ‘nothing-ness’.

I watched it start the takeoff roll (wasn’t that far from the tower back then - all them century types were VERY LOUD TOO), turned around to punch in the key combo to get in and, as I was opening the door - KA-BOOM! Not sure how far away I was but it did punt me into the door. Was told it was “out of parameters” during takeoff roll. Or something like that.

Looking back, quite a few ‘interesting’ things went on while I was there. Every now and then you could see a drone eat a 'Winder from the tower cab.

The Test Track, at night, was cool; you’d be in town (20 miles away at least) and see what looked like a shooting star - except it was going along the ground. The track was miles long.

They use to do Red Flag mini-ops there; think “traveling road show” for the aggressors. Guess what the F-5 callsign’s were? Yup, MIG. They may have been great fighter pilots but they were a lil, shall we say, free-lance when it came time to recover. The didn’t know our procedures like the Eagle guys did.

We’d sit there watching targets start to exit the airspace up North. “Here they come”. One, two, four…eight…this was before targets had data blocks. Then it was mini-chaos trying to sort and split them up for recovery, all while they were getting closer, fast. Time is your enemy in that job, at any level.

Worked a bunch of Stealth’s there before even I knew they existed; they were “A-7’s” on the flight plans. Only put two-and-two together later on. They tested the initial prototype out there for RADAR stealthy-ness.

Heck, they STILL (as of late 2000’s) launched missile’s into the range from Colorado! And…nobody knows…

My first pointy-nose jet incentive ride happened there: T-38.

Space Shuttle did a test landing there in, oh, about 83/84, give or take? When it took off, on the back of the 747, I was working Departure. Vectored it over the RAPCON so my bud’s could get a good look. Thought it’d be fun. If I recall it didn’t climb real quick :slight_smile: - it was still kinda low as it went over the back door. :slight_smile:

Chief came in and asked, “What’s he doing over here?”. No, that’s not accurate: he EXPLODED THROUGH THE DOOR like the squatty little bull he was, with, “What the F— are you doing!”. Me go, “uhh, vectoring him for his climb Chief?” in my best, please don’t eat me voice. He did request it though.

He was a classic brown shoe Chief MSgt (E-9) in the old-school mold: short-ish, stocky, male-pattern baldness going on up there, with a slight comb-over; perpetual stern look, and a short cigar always sticking out of his mouth.

Guy never really spoke much, but we were both in fear of and in awe of him:

-He made our (AF Academy grad) Captain cry one day, no seriously. I was an E-2 at the time and in training, with several others. We’re studying one day and the good captain thought we should police the grounds before someone was going to visit (don’t recall who). So we store our books/charts/maps and head outside.

We are milling about picking up butts and I hear a serious one sided conversation rattling the windows, something like, “…if you EVER PULL MY PEOPLE off for something like this again…”.

-Wing Commander did something he thought was, well, less than optimal concerning how he was going to utilize our service one day. Only heard the Chief’s side of the phone conversation (he left his office door open): “Colonel, put your pacemaker on backup power cuzz I’m coming over there RIGHT NOW to set you straight!”. SLAM goes the phone and out the door he went. They [CMsgt’s] probably don’t do that anymore.

Dang, I should have a beer. Lotsa stuff goes on above our heads (and in association with the business), as most of you know, that the general public has NO CLUE about. I could go on.

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I don’t think that is simulated in X-Plane. Maybe we can wire an airbag to go off under your chair randomly though…

There’s a dang airfield at the end of that peninsula now (I flew over it in the default scenery today). I walked out onto that ‘spit’ (what they call it) in the mid-90’s and didn’t know it was there. Only walked out a little ways though.

Yup, it has curb-appeal. And an ILS! Throw some pink flamingo’s on the front lawn and we got sumpin’!

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Found our bar and pizza if we end up there…

https://barhopbrewing.com/

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Interesting. Nah, wife would freak.

My Frankenstein seat shaker is getting closer though. A test flight in that Bush-ified skyhawk [1] (someone needs to clean the darn windshield) you hooked me up with found me in turbulence, clouds and semi-darkness yesterday. The kicking and knocking was getting kinda annoying. Made me really appreciate the issues you guys have with these situations;

I really couldn’t see doing that for long - I was looking for ‘smooth air’, just like I would if it was the real deal. Awesome-ness.

[1] Did you open the glove box? If not, I won’t spoil it.

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Yeah…that plane has character!

I haven’t…oh boy…have I been unknowingly been pulling a Barry Seal…?

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Ha! I just, like seriously, made the wife watch that with me last night (or I wouldn’t have gotten that reference). Her payback, I had to watch “The 100 foot journey”. Think TopGun for chefs. She rolled her eyes when I spat forth that observation about an hour into it.

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Yeah baby! I can only handle two anymore though :frowning_face:

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Haha…that’s funny. Can I judge turbulence based on the movement?

Oh no, don’t get me started! I actually proposed this [tongue in cheek, mostly] one day years ago…the whole “ride reports” thing always left me, er, quizzical. The funny thing is, the ‘reports’ we’d give, and get, made NO SENSE, at least to someone with a good handle on the finer points of the English language . But pilots understood it!?

The ‘standards’ (read: check ride givers - office pukes [I was one once so I’m allowed to call them that]) people would go crazy. In a check-ride de-brief they’d go, “You said, ‘constant, intermittent, light chop’”. That’s not correct. Blah, blah, blah".

And it is an outright contradiction in terms. But everyone gets it. I digress…

So, I’m sitting in the control room one day as the Guy In Charge, swiveling around in my seat doing my best Captain Kirk thing…the rides were horrible. Constant changing altitudes, griping, whining, etc. So, I propose we use - Bobble heads. No, stick with me here…

You put one on the dash of every jet. Velcro it up there ya know. They’re cheap too. Then we just come up with a standard ‘scale’. Severe turbulence is when the head pops off and goes rolling down the aisle for instance. Reduce the subjectivity I say.

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