Like everyone else here and every VR headset on the market, I also have a ‘sweet spot’…
I can’t do without the depth perception VR gives me in flight and ground vehicle* sims, but the trade-off with FPS Vs Rez in order to maintain that immersion and ‘willing suspension of disbelief’ isn’t limitless.
That means I find DCS so frustrating on my hardware budget (yet I continue to buy modules ) but for X-Plane, Flying Circus and all of my gound vehicle sims ( AC, Project Cars 2, Dirt Rally 1 & 2, Euro truck Sim, etc) I can’t live without it.
Only what he posts on facebook. It looks incredibly cool!
His Viggen sim is the one I’m talking about earlier, as my best flightsim experience and that’s before the dome…
Same here. I visited Gävle in 2015 and though I’ve been in several professional F-16 simulaters, this one was the most immersive, also because of the actual G-simulation. I hope to visit the dome one day!
Get your eyes checked asp. A worthwhile long term investment. Then if needed get lenses for your vr. They made a huge difference in mine, and no eye strain. Your 37. Dare I say middle aged. (I will tell Elspeth on you)
If you’re referring to the Level-D sims used for professional training/checking, I don’t think I’ve ever had what I’d refer to as a ‘fun experience’ in them, lol. I’ve had some great checkrides where I came out feeling like it went really well, but I would have still been glad to skip the experience.
That said, some of the emergency stuff we do (in-flight reverser deployment after rotation, for instance) can be pretty fun (sporty) if you’re on the ball.
ETA: I take it back, I have had fun. Once after a completed checkride my wife got to ‘come aboard’ and fly a really pretty visual approach in Switzerland. I had no idea the visuals could be that good. It was a really neat experience to see her get the opportunity to try out my day job.
I’m in the same boat, but I usually fly my WWI/WWII stuff in VR and jet sims where I can use my MFDs/ICP/HOTAS to their extent in 2D on mt triples… I do have a PointCTRL on order (~ a year ago now) and that may sway me some, but even with the Varjo Aero on a bleeding edge system my 2D screens are always going top be sharper…
Regarding professional flight sims, I find the sims themselves way less immersive than my home setup with VR. The 2-story tall multi-million dollar hydraulic jacks which provide “full motion” provide an experience that feels anything but, except for easy stuff like turbulence and compressor stalls. The visuals, even on the latest sims are on par with PC sims circa 2003. What makes professional sims so phenomenal are the training scenarios designed to be exercised within them. The desire to work well as a crew and to not fail your teammate is the magic in the box, not the technology. For the “solo” experience, I’ll take VR every time.
Well, I never had my own VR set but I have just a small (between 20-40 min) experience mainly from VR (Oculus Rift S, Meta Quest 2, HP Reverb 1, older Oculus sets) in Falcon BMS 4.37, and partly from DCS World and Il-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad and some racing games + hiking on Everest on Christmas fa. party.
Until this year when my friend bought Meta Quest 2. Because of that, I spent several hours with that VR set in iRacing (absolutely lovely in VR), ACC (horrible experience, blurry graphic, strange feeling), Automobilista 2 (good), and still the best VR game: Half-Life Alyx (lovely game) of course.
Frankly, I was impressed especially in iRacing, in 2D nothing special (graphic) but in VR absolutely fluent, and Nürburgring Nordschleife was a super experience. My impression of VR was really good although I still cannot imagine having VR set 1+ more hours continually on the head.
But my friend moved VR into the corner and came up with this setup. Well in simple form: super!
One of the main reasons why he left VR is that there were still some software problems. He was annoyed and tired from fixing every time the game. Sometimes he told me that he spent more than 1 hour fixing VR in-game and one time he was really annoyed when Meta updated the VR set and then nothing worked.
Tomorrow I will get (lend for 1-2 months) an older Oculus VR set (from GTX 1060 times), so I am looking for Falcon BMS experience mainly. Hard to say if I will forget my Track IR4 Pro.
I kind of having the option of VR taken from me by technical realities. The Varjo Aero headset was nice when it worked, but since 20th October it’s sitting on the shelf, with no positional tracking working thanks to a problem with SteamVR it seems.
Now, with being back at TrackIR I find myself pursuing my favourite pastime, even in DCS now: Creating mods.
I am gladly stuck in 2D for the moment. I always thought that VR was too choppy and blurry for me.
Recently my track IR died, so I revisited VR, and ironically, the new patch actually made it much more manageable on my system. It still doesn’t look nearly as good as 2D but it’s now running with enough overhead in order to be enjoyable.
I can see why the VR enthusiasts are so passionate. It just gives us something that 2D cannot. But in the end, I still think that I fight the apparatus too much in order to actually use it as my main monitor, even as I am slowly getting more and more joyrides in.
I bought my second TrackIR, very frustrated to be spending so much on such a cheap and outdated piece of tech, but as soon as I got it, DCS went back into being DCS and there was much rejoicing. Probably all those years of flying 2D made me grow so used to extrapolating 3D space from my 2D information that the difference in “immersion” was actually not that much (I’d also argue that not being able to see anything super clearly is also an obstacle for “immersion”). I fly mostly 4th gen fighters, so there are tons of other issues aside from depth perception such as operating all the mfds and such. For WW2, however, I can see VR being even more valuable. Maybe I’ll stop procrastinating and actually learn how to fly a warbird so I can enjoy that more.
To sum it up, I see absolutely no problem in “going back to TrackIR”, for now… (I sure did)
Let’s see how the VR space will be when it comes the time for my next upgrade, though. I have high hopes for the next generation tech.
I am considering the 57 inch new g9…but I am really fighting myself…Maybe I could invest the same money in a 4090 for my Quest Pro (I have access to the samsung student website and can pay the monitor 1800 euros instead of 2500).
Well you’re gonna need a 4090 to drive that 4k ultrawide monitor (if you want to get the advertised 240fps). Depends what your priorities are. If you want both the 4k G9 and VR, and you have the budget, do it!
I think I would be happy with 120fps with that kind of res
I don’t have the budget for both the monitor and the GPU.
I have a 3090 and with my quest pro is not bad
) but for X-Plane, Flying Circus and all of my gound vehicle sims ( AC, Project Cars 2, Dirt Rally 1 & 2, Euro truck Sim, etc) I can’t live without it.
