DCS 2.8

Do we have an EP-3 in the game? :thinking:

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Always excited for relatively obscure modules. This will be pretty interesting!

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In the default DCS ME, can I set a trigger zone to activate the AAA flak effect?
If so, how? I’m not seeing it in the ā€œActionsā€ category in the Rules for Triggers tab. Thanks in advance.

Look at Peform Task || fireAtPoint.

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Is that the effect or real AAA fire? If the latter, then I’ll need to place some guns. Thanks for the help!

Yes, using a gun object.

Here’s a simple video I made testing it in a script:

Its not public so you have to have the link.

This was done using various types of objects from shoulder-mounted (AK’s) to Flak. I didn’t point the camera up much; so you could see the flak bursts but you can hear them.

Part of a larger system - to make you think twice about loitering around there, or going in low :slight_smile:

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Looks exactly what I’m trying to achieve! Thanks

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I have some highly suspicious activity going on in DCS World. In fact it’s been going on for some time, but I always put it down to user error - now I know it definitely isn’t.

It’s the controller config files. Here’s today’s example:

I decide to assign my HOTAS and pedals for the F-86F in prep for flying the Museum Relic campaign. I still have the 2.7 assignments so i go through them one by one to check all is as it should be, then I resave my controller categories in turn:

LEFT VPC Throttle MT-50 CM {3B5BA2A0-659F-11ed-8003-444553540000}.diff.lua
LEFT VPC Throttle MT-50 CM {3B5BA2A0-659F-11ed-8004-444553540000}.diff.lua

RIGHT VPC Stick WarBRD {1BBFDBB0-659E-11ed-8001-444553540000}.diff.lua

SN_1 {3B5BA2A0-659F-11ed-8006-444553540000}.diff.lua

Then I click on ā€œOKā€, go back to main UI, exit the sim and go to my controller assignment diagrams that I have in my kneeboards folder, to check they are accurate. They are.

I restart the sim and go back the controller UI, only to find that one or more of the controller lua files has disappeared. It’s usually just one, but once I had two simply vanish.

I exit the sim and go to the config folder to see, and sure enough, the lua file is not there.

This has happened countless times over recent months, with each of my controllers. In different installations.

Time for straight-jacket and padded cell… :scream_cat:

I’m not in the habit of checking lua files, but I have experienced mapped controllers being un-mapped again, the next time I start DCS.

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I always have to(remap) ā€œTomcat Ball ā€œ command after every mission using The Tomcat

Yikes! You don’t exit DCS, just restart the mission?

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Wait a minute, you mentioned saving the controller configs explicitly to files. Wouldn’t it be enough to just press OK after changes to save the config?

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No,I mean on every mission using The Tomcat,When I want to call The Ball…I have to remap to my virpil throttle
As long as I’m still in that same mission it’s fine,but once I quit that mission…or exit DCS…I always have to remap.This started happening after a OB update some months back…I think The Tomcat got a lot of updating at the time.

Does it happen to other commands as well?

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Yes…The Tomcat Salute…oddly enough that command is on the opposite end of the same toggle switch for Tomcat Ball.
For repetitive reasons I have the same/switch/command mapped on Hornet…but I have no remapping issues there.Weird

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Yeah…

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Used to be very similar with me when mapping especially the kneeboard next and previous pages - those assignments would always vanish somehow in all modules where I’d assigned them - but since 2.8 they have been okay, so I assume some error or bug had been sorted.

@UncleZam it’s possible, yes, but I like to make sure for two reasons. Firstly that thing I just mentioned where my kneeboard page assignments went AWOL and secondly due to what Troll mentions - assignments vanishing. When they do that, if you haven’t saved the lua file you have to do it all again. If you make a back-up of the lua files you only need to reload them.

That’s assignments for a potential 58 (not counting easy ones) aircraft or modules! One of the reasons I get irate when an update wipes the lot - even replacing them with back-ups takes a lot of time. That’s over 250 assignment profiles :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

edit: btw Zam, I have had instances where I’ve assigned a module’s controls and not found any config lua files for what I’ve just assigned in the Input folder - in fact no folder for that module at all, after a clean install of the sim.

PS: I just had a thought - I wonder if it may be a Russian/Chinese thing? I noticed when Phantom mentioned his problem, it was with a VPC throttle - my HOTAS is VPC. Also, my rudder pedals are the most frequent ā€œvanishersā€ of all - and they are Chinese ones.

Shame I don’t think I can save them anywhere other than the C drive. I know I could use symlinks - i do that a lot, anyway, but to the O/S it would still be the C drive, maybe, so that wouldn’t necessarily bypass such a thing. Hmmmm… :thinking:

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I get it now, so the explicit saving is for backup purposes. Makes sense now.

This whole config acting funnily is interesting, but not so surprising, because the config structure is quite complex.

I should know since I wrote my own parser for those diff files. The plan is to create helper tool for smart configuring and perhaps backing up / sharing of configs.

The unnecessary complex design comes from using base configs and then diff files to modify the base (which is not usable in most setups). So it is possible that certain diff file will disappear if you happen to hit the base configuration.

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??? Explain please.

Disclaimer first: this is how I understand the config system works. It may not be entirely correct or complete picture of things.

It seems that the base (default) configs for each aircraft / controller device combination are defined in game directory. For example for A-10C joysticks in C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\A-10C\Input\A-10C\joystick. There are .diff configurations here as well as .lua files with different schema.

I suppose those configurations are provided by the aircraft module authors. Sometimes the mapping is obvious, like with Warthog Throttle and A-10C module, thus the default configuration can be quite complete (you don’t necessary need the user configured .diff files in saved games\DCS\Config\... at all). Other times the device / aircraft key mapping is not obvious and the default config is lacking.

So a user config file in under saved games\DCS\Config\... can be nonexistent if the default configuration (from game dir) is good. You can have full set of default key binds but no config file in under saved games\DCS\config.

I thought it might have been easier and simpler if there were just absolute configuration files for each combination. Then again there might be some devils in the details that have forced the ED developers’ hand when designing the differential config system.

@Fuzzy Hope this helps to clarify.

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