DCS 2.8

The multiplayer server list load is something we are working on. I have tested some fixes recently and hopefully they will be in a future patch.
Its important at the moment to allow time for the server list to load, wait until the refresh icon turns yellow before looking for the server.

Thanks
Bignewy

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If there are servers you visit frequently, make sure you star them as favorites. I find the server I have that way pops up pretty fast.

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Strangely enough, since my venture into OB and online then back to stable, both my sim and mission start times have decreased noticeably.

Unsurprisingly the previous noise on my Index screens has also been vastly reduced since my recent spring clean of the headset.

So now, despite having a clearer view in Pico 4, I’m back to flying DCS in the Index. Much simpler and easily good enough with the 4080 driving it.

Thing is, I’m sure I could up the settings, but I’m not sure which ones would have the biggest impact on my experience (i.e. make it look better), as the obvious ones are already maxed. MY GPU has lots of headroom - the CPU not as much.

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Can anyone tell me, if I learn the DCS Viper and it’s systems, will I be okay using that info on the BMS aircraft?

I know there are some things in DCS that aren’t in BMS - such as Link16 - and maybe vice-versa, but I’m talking of the stuff that’s in both. I think DCS tute missions are far better for learning aircraft systems (at least the ED ones are - the Mirage F1 tutes can be a bit of a nightmare, for example) and though I’d like to fly a BMS campaign, I don’t want the headache of learning the systems in VR in that sim (due mainly to the poor cursor control).

If needs must, I’ll do it all pancake with TrackIR, but I’d rather not.

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IIRC the two games have vipers of different blocks, plus BMS has several different blocks itself.

As a rule of thumb you can’t go wrong learning something. Will it translate 100%? Definitely not…
Will it nevertheless help? Definitely.

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I’ve not bought the viper on DCS because of BMS.

Dcs is without any question the ultimate sim for me. But BMS is the ultimate viper sim. So i dont see the point in buying it

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I haven’t touched BMS in many, many years.
While I enjoyed the campaign in F4 the graphics just finally got too outdated for me. The terrain was never even as good as Strike Fighters and that’s saying something.

I’ve had the Viper since release and while it wasn’t worth it the first year it is now. It’s second only to the Hornet in versatility now and the HTS makes SEAD better in the Viper. I spent a long time flying the Hornet almost exclusively, went to the Viper, went back to the Hornet for the carrier/Harpoon/SLAM stuff, and now I’m ready to go back to the Viper.

While I can understand the feeling of not wanting to duplicate, I think the Viper was worth it. YMMV

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Yes for the most part. I haven’t flown BMS in a long time but when the DCS F16 came out the controls where still second nature from my time in Falcon 4.0 and BMS.

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Ok ta :slight_smile:

The BMS block-50 will be the same, but more complete. Remember, the later blocks are just upgrades to support more ordinance.

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There are a couple of tiny bothers, but to summarise a post I made ages ago (I doubt it would have turned up in search), you’ll be fine. The bothers are:

  • the startup is different: if you start the BMS Viper like you do the DCS Viper you’ll probably hot start it and definitely forget to set the air source and cook the electronics, and have a FLCS fault that you can’t clear (or at least I couldn’t without shutting the jet off again). And if you try to use the BMS checklist in DCS you’ll get stuck when you can’t complete the prestart checks (again, at least I did).

  • the low speed handling in DCS and the handling when you abuse the limiters ā€œfeelsā€ more as if there’s a real jet under the FCS (to me, this is subjective and you won’t be flying in these regimes often).

The actual combat operation of the jet is so similar that you can bring muscle memory from one to the other.

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Aside from a few of the missing HOTAS commands the only complaint I really have in the DCS Viper is that baked-in deadzone/breakout force/whatever in the controls. The BMS Viper responds perfectly to controls, but the DCS Viper seems to have this weird delay and then it overreacts to your input. I can’t pull specific G to save my life and AAR is as busy as doing it in a Tomcat.

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I have the same issue. Ended up putting a significant negative curve on, but it still doesn’t fly as precisely as it should (compared to the Hornet, say). ED should put some work into this, perhaps give players the option to use a conventional joystick setup.

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Also in landing gains, it requires considerable back stick for the FPM to not creep down. AFAIK in landing gains no backstick should be required for the FPM to hold the flight path angle. In this mode, the FLCS should hold pitch angle, aka it should trim itself for zero pitch rate. In DCS, this just isn’t the case.

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That’s great info thanks - I actually use the separate start-up procedures for each one as per the relevant sim manuals as if they were different aircraft so that won’t be an issue.

*unfortunately, so far it’s the only procedure I’ve learned properly for each one! Though I do know how to use the ICP & DED

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That’s an interesting observation - I’ve always used a TM Warthog stick with a short extension mounted in the sidestick position for the DCS Viper, and a centre mounted G940 (again, with extension and lots of mods) for everything else.

I do know what you’re talking about, but I think I assumed it was because of yhe Warthog stick not the DCS Viper flight model!

Booo,
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The reason I deleted that post is because it was an assumption of mine that, at second though, can’t be true. If you fly the AoA bracket, the AoA is always the same regardless of loadout.

This is mudspike, we are mature here,

I can say something like:
An F-15E should be able to land on a carrier because it’s built to withstand a higher landing stress/weight blah blah blah (even though I’m just b/s’ing).

and no one would care.

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