We need to build like a knowledge base library for posts like this.
I love these kinds of in-depth analyses.
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That was absolutely amazing, posts like that are why this is the best place to go on the Internet
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Whelp, off to the fly the F-5 around Kola now.
Fun fact, “Skoshi Tiger” is a butchering of the Japanese “sukoshi,” meaning “a little (in amount)” erroneously used to refer to small size. That’s always bugged me.
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Probably since the Japanese dialect tends to understate the ‘u’ in a lot of its pronunciations. That can get lost real easily to an English speaker.
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Perhaps this was one of the greatest original threads I have read on Mudspike in years. So much was totally new information to me. Thank you. You spent a long time crafting that post and sometimes such an effort can seem wasted with such a small readership. No waste on my end. You hit it out of the park!
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I was quite surprised the first time I heard the name “Mitsuke” pronounced in Japanese. Absolutely no “U” at all! Just Mitske.
Which means we’ve all been saying Mitsubishi wrong our whole lives! It’s Mitsbishi. Probably sounds like Mitsibishi actually. 
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Thank you, and everyone else, for reading it, realistically. 
The question just happened to be a case of planets aligning with airframes I know stuff about! The F-5’s history is one you cannot help but admire.
To start out, Northrop noticed the ballooning prices of the Century series fighters and thought a lower cost and simpler option would round out US Fighter sales options nicely. So, they developed the N-156 prototype on their own dime. If you’ve ever seen the Boom Supersonic pitch of the “first independently developed private supersonic aircraft?” Yeah, load of garbage. The N-156 has it beat by quite some time.
Even when the USAF turned it down and then the USAF threw a fit because the US Army wanted them for low-altitude air superiority (helicopter hunting) and CAS, they kept developing it. Eventually the USAF did take it on as the T-38 and those suckers lasted.
Combine that with still serving examples in Singapore and Brazil that can lob AMRAAMs and I think it serves to make the case that the F-5 is a fascinating little fighter.
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So you made me actually look it up and listen to a native speaker pronouncing Mitsubishi and the U isn’t silent. It kinda sounds like the German ü but with a very soft and subtle pronunciation. Hard to describe really 
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It kind of becomes part of the previous letter’s sound in a similar way as “sh.”
I’d almost call it a U you suddenly remembered to pronounce. It’s not too hard to do, at least it’s easier than the -tl suffix I see in Nahuatl. I cannot do that to save my life.
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@Clutch speaks the language; I can only order food and train tickets. But to beat a dead horse the letter “su” is pronounced more like “SS”. So the verb with the English equivalent “is” or “it is”, “desu”, usually sounds like “dess”. On the other hand “Tsu” as in “mitsuke” or “mitsubishi” is a different letter. It can come across as “tsu” or sometimes “tss”, depending on the speaker. To a non-speaker “sukoshi” does sound a bit like “skoshi” or even “skosh”. In some parts of America “skosh” is almost a real word (“Just a skosh!”). It is just a bad mispronunciation of the Japanese “sukoshi”.
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How strongly and where in a word that “u” is suppressed also varies a lot in regional dialects and even personal usage, though some are rather set in stone, like names.
I hope I’m not too off topic here, but I found these pictures on the interwebs today and there was no information. Anyone know anything about them? They have N-numbers, which is interesting.
I think that blue on white would be a sweet livery for DCS as well.
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F-4D, allegedly operated by “Airline Flight Systems”.
Anyone notice how impossible it is to get google search to produce anything useful these days?
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Google went to crap around the time I graduated college. Can’t find anything without excessive use of quotes and minus symbols these days.
Managed to find some history of the aircraft and a tail number: Test Support F-4D: 66-7483 - Aviation Photography - Britmodeller.com
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Used Active Pause to get a couple depression tables for the Mk82SE/AIR, FFAR, and Guns since the Jester notepad gives incorrect MIL settings the moment. I wish I knew some math to extrapolate more from what I have without having to test every dive angle and release speed. Tested at 15C 29.92. Snakeye and AIR seem to have the same ballistics. I couldn’t always get a nicely marked release speed but a 10~20kt difference probably won’t matter much if you’re laying a stick of 12 bombs haha.
Mk82HD
| RA | REL AGL | REL IAS | REL TAS | MILS |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 500ft | 450 | 457 | 190 |
FFAR HEAT
| RA | REL AGL | REL IAS | REL TAS | MILS |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20 | 1700 | 420 | 438 | 36 |
| 30 | 3000 | 440 | 464 | 27 |
STRAFE
| RA | REL AGL | REL IAS | REL TAS | MILS |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 | 3000 | 440 | 464 | 48 |
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Hi fellas!
Im back! Maybe not fully back, but i can fly. Took delivery of my new rig a few days ago. I just had an hour in the Phantom. I was able to start it, take off and land… ugly landing but nothing broke… im happy. All i have is a used Logitech 3d and keyboard. Im on TiR and a 27 inch monitor…But hey! Whos complaining? The Phabulous Phantom is lovely. I understand now… " I knew i was strapping on a very manly piece of equipment " Yes Sir, yes it is.
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NICE! Welcome back man!
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That’s great! And just in time too, if you can download NTTR sometime in the next 30 hours
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