DCS: Mi-24 Hind

I get my tenses wrong fairly often. It’s one of the many drawbacks that come with being a Time Lord.

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The Soviets initially thought so. Take a look at the wings of this helicopter.

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Ooh! A rabbit hole!

Yeah, I fell down one…

Aerodynamic Trade Study of Compound Helicopter Concepts (erau.edu)

I wanted to read more about wings on helicopters, because @BeachAV8R 's comment made me curious…the above is a very interesting thesis comparing the different helicopter types – conventional helicopters, compounded (lift/propulsive) helicopters and tiltrotors.

One of the points to note was that while wings increase lift at cruise speed, in hover and at low airspeeds the wing presents a large area to the rotor downwash, which can produce a significant downforce until the forward airspeed is high enough to move the rotor wake skew angle behind the wing. So, not only do you lose the lift from the wings as you decelerate, you also get the added effect of the rotor wake hitting the wing, causing a downforce.

I’ll just be exploring this burrow further if anyone needs me…fascinating…

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If you want to go super-deep, read RW Prouty’s “Helicopter Aerodynamics” vols 1 and 2. Wings are covered in detail. They also have a negative impact on autorotation, especially during the flare.

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Thanks! Heh, that should make for interesting autorotations in the Hind…also, important autorotation checklist item not relevant to the Hip - gear down! That doesn’t sound stressful at all :sweat_smile:

In saying that, the Hip is actually my favourite DCS helo for autorotation because of the wheels…I’ve failed to completely kill the forward speed many times in the flare with the Huey and ended up watching the main rotor fly away when the skids dig in…whereas in the Hip you just end up with a rolling landing as long as you don’t plant down too hard. I guess the Hind benefits from the same.

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I still want an Mi-2 in DCS World…I have one in X-Plane and Arma…

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I still want, really more than anything, a Vietnam flight sim in the spirit of DCS. Prairie Fire has been a blast. But a flight sim it’s not.

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In time, DCS will get there. Bit by bit and there will always be bits missing. C’est la vie .

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I was pretty stoked to notice that the airspeed indicator in the Hind is a bit all over the place when you’re hovering / slow, so you need to rely on visual / Doppler until the pitot tube clears the downwash. From memory the other DCS helos do not model this.

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But real helicopters do! Or at least they do something similar. At very low speeds the pitot is getting more turbulence from rotor downwash than smooth flow from forward flight. Similarly, in the little trainers I’ve been flying it is common to see zero airspeed when slipping (“out of trim” in helicopter parlance") even when airspeed is 40+ knots.

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I want a Ka-27. If I ever win a lottery, I am going to fund one of these into DCS. :slight_smile:

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One word.

Havoc.

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And set loose the dogs of war!

(trying to fly the Pandemic campaign in the Ka-50. While I feel I have the systems and switchology down for that machine, and it’s hella cool to be in such a futuristic helicopter sniper sturmovik, I sure would appreciate a 2nd crewmember for the kind of work it does.)

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I think the Ka-52 would be good in that regard, as it’s very similar to the Ka-50 in many respects compared to the 28.
Not that I would reject the 28 that is!

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I always felt a UH-1Y Venom would be very doable in DCS…A Huey with a Bigger Bite!!! :blush:

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I just gave the Persian Gulf instant mission (UN relief mission in Iran, something like that) a whirl.

I chose the 2 x 12.7mm/7.62mm GUV pods for a good level of dakka.

Pretty fun…there was an insurgent mortar team in a village and I trimmed for a nice gun run descent, about 250kmh with the distance calculator set at 500m. 3 bursts at the “medium” setting followed by a sharp break turn off target. Nothing left alive, completely peppered.

It is a noticeably better platform for that kind of thing than the Hip, actually. The weapons are the same but the trim adjuster is handy for the final gun run, the reflector sight is better and the distance calculator a good “timer” for your break off…and I feel like she is a bit easier to set up steady when going down the “chute” than the Hip.

Now I just need to accept that I need to play with my graphics settings…life is silky smooth on high settings when I’m cruising but when the tracers are flying and throwing up dust, there’s stutters. I guess DCS can bring any machine on its knees, haha.

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A couple of stupid questions about key bindings…I must be blind.

What name do the countermeasures go under? It’s not “countermeasures” or “flares”…

How do I bind the Petrovich WASD interface into the joystick hat? The “assist AI” category doesn’t seem to have the right things…

Sorry if these are obvious. Here’s a picture of a Hind doing Hind things to make up for it.

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Snars. Look for SNARS/ ASO-2V both for gunner and pilot positions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrHCZ0Pxhvg

Can’t remember what they are called, but in the controller bindings page you can select ‘All’ at the top and then press W etc and it’ll show you the binding to go add the hat to.

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They are not in the Mi-24P Sim bindings, but in a separate controls module called Mi-24P AI commands or similar.

This was probably done to allow you to bind those buttons for other non-AI related functions too

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Thanks @Chuck_Owl for the release of your DCS: Hind guide ! :nerd_face:

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