Future of ARMA News 5/17

I finally got to play it today for a little bit, made it through the tutorial, a little bit of MP, and slaughtered two soviet conscripts with three shots from my M-14. Next I wound up in the shoes of a soviet conscript, which spawned on a mountaintop with three guys walking to an objective somewhere over there… My wife momentarily distracted me by walking into the room and asking a question, and when I looked back I’d lost the other three conscripts, leaving me to wander the mountaintop. :joy:

Reforger runs very very well. I’m playing it on Ultra on my gaming laptop with a 2070 and getting 70+fps, which is pretty cool. I’d say it runs better than Arma 3. The interactions are great: intuitive and quick, without being dumbed down or simplified. In fact, you can do more (highbeams and hazard lights, anyone?). Inventory is better, similar to DayZ. I’d say it’s already a solid platform and a fun shooter in and of itself. So far I haven’t found a design choice they’ve made that I didn’t like. Most of them I’ve seen make me slap my forehead and say “Of course! Why didn’t we think of that before?!”

I’m pretty stoked, and going to be putting some hours into this on MP for sure. I didn’t know they could make something as big and open as Everon run so well, much less in MP. Very well optimized.

It was $29.99 on steam when I bought it, I think the day before yesterday (can’t remember).

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It’s been $30 since release, not sure where the $40 came from

It’s probably $40 Canadian.

Ah yes probably so

A BI game that runs well on release, what is this world coming to? Good on them if they managed to churn out an engine that runs well, alas, if there’s no SP story driven content, then it’s not for me. My times of playing shooters in MP are long over. Also I’d be curious to see it run a map the size of the latter ArmA3 maps.

Yup, $44 tax in. Ok, ok, I’ll grab it and post a screenshot of the cpu cores in the performance monitor … I’ll run it at 4K Ultra.

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I bought it, then returned it because I was upset about no single player content. Then I decided I wanted to mess around with it more and check out the workbench tools so I bought it again. You can use game master to setup some basic single player action and I’ve been using it to explore Everon.

Everon is gorgeous and performance for me appears to much improved over Arma 3. My GPU (RTX3090) runs at 100% and I get between 50-90 fps with mostly high/ultra settings at 4K. I’ve been trying to drag down the fps with large numbers of units and so far I’ve had up to around 70 infantry in intense fire fights with virtually no impact on fps. This is really incredible compared to Arma 3 where just a small number of units engaging each other would quickly kill performance. I’ll have to do some more testing to see how the multicore behavior is but overall my CPU utilization never went over 15-20% on my i9-10900K.

The workbench tools for modders look really incredible. I think when Arma 4 finally releases we’ll have a huge library of mods which is awesome. I wish DCS had something similar to this for editing the terrain.

Does anyone know if they plan to add more content to Reforger? I think it would be a tragedy if they don’t give us some OFP:CWC missions remade for on this engine.

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I think that considering how ‘complete’ a state Reforger is in right now, compared to say an ED early access, it’s pretty impressive. The MP gameplay is very nice, and avoids a lot of the BF/COD tropes.

I speculate, but think it’s pretty clear that a ground-up overhaul of the AI is in the works; probably porting that into the new engine without bringing a bunch of spiderwebs code over too would be impossible. Therefore it’s probably a time-consuming process, and pushing the game out as MP initially makes sense to me. That said, there are some co-op PVE missions in the workshop, that seem to work and have functional AI.

Did I mention how much better the mod and workshop integration is? Wow!

Wow! I haven’t tried that yet, but have come to the same conclusion: Reforger runs far better than Arma 3.

Does that mean that Reforger is incredibly well-optimized, or Arma 3 incredibly poorly?

Probably a fist full of both.

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@WarPig, that was an awesome initial impression. Thanks!

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I’m pretty sure if they don’t, the community will. Historically, the modders and scenario makers put out content that actually eclipses BI’s content; without taking away from their work. I don’t know how to put that, but it’s not meant as a dig at BIS.

@will2360 Dude, thanks for reminding me to check out Game Master, it’s awesome! Great mix between Zues and 3Den, although I (selfishly) hope that there will be a setting that reverts the key commands back to the ones I’m familiar with. I can’t figure out how to group/ungroup units yet.

:joy: :+1:

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it is a shame there is no sort of set roadmap as to what they are going to add in the future, they do mention tracked vehicles…

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It would be kinda neat if they incorporated all of the assets into Arma 4 when it comes out and then offered a Reforger DLC for anyone that doesn’t buy it first.

Either way, I doubt that anything that’s available in Reforger won’t make its way into Arma 4. Arma 2 assets certainly all arrived into Arma 3 fairly quickly.

The end is nigh, truly. Actually, I found A3 ran well at launch, too. The issue is they’ve failed to improve upon it and have only worsened performance subsequently.

Same here, actually. I’d forgotten how much better it ran than Arma 2.

Considering how really well this runs, I’d say BIS did good. It’s a lot more than what I was hopeful for, has exceeded my expectations. Perhaps they were unfair to BIS.

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Tried it. CPU utilization looks good. :+1: I liked the minimal control remapping as opposed to the hundreds of controls in ArmA3. Still looks like ArmA though. I was expecting 4K Ultra graphics to perform great like every other game I play. Nope. Returned.

So if a game isn’t 4K ultra you won’t play it?

That’s not my bar for entry but more power to ya

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IMO, you have to have a 4K capable computer to venture into VR.

I know ArmA isn’t a VR game but my bar is set very high these days. Luckily all other titles have not failed to impress me. Reforger was a real letdown. I couldn’t believe the 100% flogging that was going on on my hard drive although I have 64GB of memory. BIS is dead to me. I have no idea what they’re thinking.

Flogging? Is it a mechanical drive?

They may not prioritize 4K/VR in their development. Works for me, I’ve no interest in parting with that kind of cash just yet.

Actually, I’d say they were perfectly fair. Given the performance of ArmA 3 in the back end of its life cycle, it was pretty clear they’d given up on optimizing further. There were a lot of things about ArmA 3, which I felt was a good evolution of the series, which came short for some inexplicable reason.