Now I see why it takes 3 people to fly this beast.
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I checked the manual and actually it specifically prohibits starting the main engines with the APU in DC generator (STBY GEN) mode. Evidently it doesnāt matter in the sim since youāve been doing it, though 
Page 253 in case you feel like geeking over it.
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Hmmmā¦even in VR, that may be tricky. Think this is one of those areas where the rest of the aircrew would be hitting the switches while the PF flew - in the sim with only meā¦not so muchā¦of course there is always slowing the sim rate
OooooooKayā¦Iām pretty sure that turning off the remaining engine 
Seriously, that soon? Wow. So as you say, right into autorotation from that point.
Thanks! This is great info. 
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There are a few grammar and spelling errors in the pdfā¦ 
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Itās not verbatim from the POH as such - just an observation that if you still get fire lights after punching both charges, youāre on borrowed time and cutting all fuel is the only thing that seems to help.
Depending on your situation, when the fire reignites or spreads to the second engine, you may choose to keep the engine running to execute a power on landingā¦but the clock is ticking and turning the fuel off once landed may be too late to stop it. Better than crashing, if youāre unable to achieve autorotation speed/altitude parameters, I supposeā¦but your options are limited at that point.
The wheels are nice to have for crash landings/ugly autorotationsā¦you can have a fair amount of forward speed at touchdown without ending up in a somersault, unlike in the Huey. Just need the slow down the sink rate so the wheels donāt break off.
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Awesome! I need to rejig the office (weāre working from home so the desk has the wifeās work stuff now) but as soon as I have a sim set up again Iāll give it a whirl!
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Thanks!ā¦Iāll take a look tomorrowā¦Iāve been working on this one so long that I canāt see straight.
ā¦and therein lies the rubā¦
This is a great discussion. Iāve had my fair share of getting shot down in the Mi-8. I look at it like if I can put it down without killing the crew and not blow up in about 20 seconds, then I probably survived. So, as you point out, anything that delays the fire from spreading helps. To date Iāve just been hitting the back-up extinguisher if the fire light comes back on, cutting the overhead fuel stop and trying to keep the other engine going as long as possibleā¦which has had limited success.
So dousing the remaining engine to gain time against the fireā¦OK, Iām going to need to practice some autorotation.
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Iāll do a bit more testing & reading when Iām back up and running tooā¦I find it quite fun to figure out what damage states are flyable and which ones require immediate landing.
Iām not a 100% sure what exactly the fuel cut offs do each, which would probably help in understanding what is the most crucial first step - Iāll have a look on the manual.
In terms of other systems, one or even both of the transfer pumps can fail and you can still use the remaining fuel in the service tank, however if the service pump fails, thatās instant glider mode.
Thereās a primary and secondary hydraulics system but I donāt know if they use the same lines i.e. unsure if the primary can be ruptured and the secondary be used indefinitely or not.
Obviously typically in combat you usually get multiple failures at once, but itās still quite nice to be able to assess whether youāre 100% going straight down or if limping home could be a thing, and act accordingly.
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There are two Red Mi-8s in the Iraādib mission on Hollo Pointe, there for you to blow away the Blue at al Minhad. Put your MP on!
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Now THAT is an important bit of information!
A good question. The engineer in me would think 2 separate sets of lines as it doesnāt make sense to have a back-up system that will fail soon after the primary fails. IIRC the Airbus A300, for example has 3 different systems that power different functions and a handful of same/complementary componentsāprimarily control surfaces. I can probably answer this by studying a schematic of the Mi-8s hydraulicsā¦let me see what I can find.
I would love to!ā¦what is this thing called Discord?
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Hey @Wes,
Can you please put a Discord link or invite in this thread? TIA
Discord is our chat and voice comms.
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Gotcha covered:
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ā61 other membersā - there is a potentially fair number of hipsters in that!
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Like, I wanna let out some good smoke, man, lift and drop a few loads, maybe shag a few airfields with some S-8 rockets until the evil blue capitalist imperialist fascist horde is to the dead and in scream for mothers, and travel around a bit with my good dudes with RPG and Igla.
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I never see anyone online 
Iām so sad about it. Iām at gmt + 3. What can I do?
Youāre about 9 hours ahead of me, so your best bet would be to try and catch some of the European crowd. Iām not sure what their schedule is but I tend not to start playing til maybe 1500 local at the earliest on the weekends, 1800 on the weekdays. You might be able to catch some of the Oceania crowd, too.
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Well, i played a couple of hours tonite on HP with just the in game chat. Jump on the server and see what is shakin. Use Tab and Shift-Tab to chat in game.
You Hipsters, that al Minhad should be easy pickings. 
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I know sometimes we keep reading past things others see because we wrote them. Here is what I saw that you might consider altering. Hopefully it does not come off as pedantic.
Summary
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In 1979, UNESCO name the site a World Heritage Site.
Option 1: In 1979 UNESCO named the site a World Heritage Site. (removed comma after 1979 also) -
A group of renegade criminals has captured the ruins of Persepolis and is holding the for ransom.
Option 1: A group of renegade criminals has captured the ruins of Persepolis and is holding them for ransom. -
The criminals have placed four, powerful fuel-air explosive devices in the ruins.
Option 1: The criminals have placed four powerful fuel-air explosive devices in the ruins. (no comma necessary) -
They have effectively shut off any air traffic in the area, preventing the deployment of a strong army force that could have effectively responded to the capture of the site.
Option 1: They have effectively shut off any air traffic in the area preventing the deployment of a strong army force that could have effectively responded to the capture of the site. (no comma necessary)
Option 2: They have effectively shut off any air traffic in the area, preventing the deployment of a strong army force, that could have effectively responded to the capture of the site.
(The following shows how option 2 makes two independent sentences when using the commas.)
They have effectively shut off any air traffic in the area preventing the deployment of a strong army force.
They have effectively shut off any air traffic in the area that could have effectively responded to the capture of the site.
Pretty sure Option 1 is closer to what you were going for though. -
It is theorized that a strong EMP may destroy the bombs detonation electronics, rendering them safe.
Option 1: It is theorized that a strong EMP may destroy the bombs detonation electronics rendering them safe. (no comma necessary)
Option 2: It is theorized that a strong EMP may render the bombs safe by destroying their detonation electronics . -
However, before that can be accomplished, the S-300 must be neutralized.
Option 1: However before that can be accomplished the S-300 must be neutralized.
(Either sentence is technically correct but I personally feel the second sentence is clearer. If you are going for dramatic effect the first sentence may be the better choice.) -
The mission consisted of two phases:
The mission consists of two phases:
(This statement should be in the present tense and not the past tense, consisted versus consists) -
With the SAM site inoperative, it will be possible to fly a helicopter at the altitude and slow speed required, to deliver the EMP device.
Option 1: With the SAM site inoperative it will be possible to fly a helicopter at the altitude and slow speed required to deliver the EMP device.
(Sentence does not work independently when read with the commas. With the SAM site inoperative to deliver the EMP device.) -
The last 25 km to the SAM site must. be flown at extremely low altitude.
Option 1: The last 25 km to the SAM site must be flown at extremely low altitude. (removed excess period) -
In general, you will remain parallel the main railroad line when heading towards the target.
Option 1: In general you will remain parallel to the main railroad line when heading towards the target.
Option 2: In general you will parallel the main railroad line when heading towards the target. -
The challenge is increased by the number of electricity transmission wires that criss-crossing the area.
Option 1: The challenge is increased by the number of electricity transmission wires that are criss-crossing the area.
Option 2: The challenge is increased by the number of electricity transmission wires that criss-cross the area. -
However, you must be careful not to damage any of the bombs in doing so.
Option 1: However, in doing so you must be careful not to damage any of the bombs. -
If a bomb is accidentally detonated, all four will explode with their maximum force.
Option 1: If a bomb is accidentally detonated all four will explode with their maximum force.
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Dude! This is awesome! As we say when writing reports in naval intelligence, āno pride in ownershipā. Iām a one man show for these. The 7 cats are not much help with proof reading. So thank you very much for doing this. I know the time and attention to detail this work-and it is work-entails. I am very grateful!
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