I feel pretty stupid for having paid $93k and putting a year and a half of hard labor into the paperweight formerly called a “helicopter”. I think I would feel every bit as fiscally retarded paying $3K for a GPU. Not knocking others. This is just me. If I took the 200 hours MAX that I used the GPU over the 3 years I’d have it installed, that’s $15/hour. The hobby just isn’t worth that to me.
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Yes. A few years ago I thought about what would drive me out of this hobby (and PC usage completely as I don’t really need it for much else) is cost.
While I can more afford these luxuries now (after decades of saving) It’s starting to make less and less sense; not a good ‘value’.
This, along with some comments, appears to relate to my post up above (~2 days ago). Ironically my first thought was: “Finally, some optimization for MSFT FS”, albeit unintentionally perhaps.
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So… I would be in the market for a new system. My 1080Ti is approaching the legal retirement age and it looks like my local shop could make me a build with a 9800X3D and a 5080 for just north of 3000… I just have a tiny hunch that with such a huge gap between the 80 and the 90, it’ll be very easy for them to do a 5080Ti with something like 20 or 24GB of VRAM within a year or so. I am a little bit torn on if I should try to wait even longer or place that order now.
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I would not buy a 5090 now. The performance is great, yes, but the price is exorbitant. It only makes sense for those who want the absolute best GPU out there right now.
If you could make do with a 1080Ti for so long, consider a 5080. Or even just get a 4070Ti now to buy time until the 5080Ti appears.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for Nvidia catering for the gamer market. They are neglecting good price/value offerings for years now because people are buying anyway for lack of real competition
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The 5080 is what I had planned, yes 
I cannot justify the expense of the xx90 cards.
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That is very true…
Then again, coming from a 1080Ti, the 4070Ti should keep you happy for a year or 2, and it’s not hard to replace it. (Unless you go full custom loop: in that case the 5080 fits the build philosophy of “make it as good as possible so I won’t have to touch it for another 7 years”)
EDIT: Oops I misread
@Sryan do you fly in VR? Do you need Nvidia-specific features or really good raytracing?
If both of those are “no”, the RX 7900 XTX is a great value card with similar (rasterized) performance to 4080 and a significantly lower price.
I think the 5080 is a solid value. It’s probably a 4080super (which is a good value card, much better than the original 4080) with modern DLSS features. Doesn’t sound so bad, considering it is going to hold to the 999 MRSP. If you are a VR user (which I’m guessing no, because of the 1080 Ti) maybe the 4090 or 5090 horsepower is worth it, but if not, I’d say this system will FLY. I’d probably think about going 4K, maybe getting a TV as a monitor to enjoy some of this horsepower, since 1080p will mean much of the grunt would be going to waste. Sure, there will be a better card in the future, but this card hasn’t even released yet, let’s be reasonable, lol. (and knowing nvidia, if such a card between the 5080 and 5090 comes out it will probably slot in the massive price gap between the two, meaning yours will hold it’s value, in case you decide to sell and upgrade)
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Yes I do. It’s the only reason I’m considering this upgrade after all these years. The old GTX holds up fine in what I typically play outside of flight sims. I play them on a Quest 3. I guess I am very tolerant to low settings and sometimes a bit poor FPS but I admit to not flying much in 2024 because it is not a good experience anymore.
Yes, you make a very fair point. I’m sure a hypothetical 5080Ti will be priced much higher than what I would pay for a 5080 now.
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I can only say about flascreen, but I went from a 1080Ti to a 3080Ti (granted it was an opportunity upgrade more then a necessity then - what a great card the 1080Ti was, I regret ever selling mine) and it was night and day. I can’t imagine what the VR experience will change from a 1080Ti to a 5080 ALONG with a processor upgrade… I’d say go for it and merry Christmas! 
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FWIW: Yeah, I thought I’d hold out once upon a time - about 4 years ago. In the end I didn’t save any money buy following my tried-and-true philosophy of buying the last generation ‘cutting edge’ card when the next gen came out. nVidia put holes in this plan…“corner the market, raise the prices”. They have no competition at the top of the market. Then there’s the AI thing.
I thought that some people seriously considering an upgrade might find this interesting
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Well at least the thumbnail is honest
5090 +
8 year old CPU
being the key part
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Yeah this is silly. He’s doing CPU benchmarks here, not GPU. The 9800X3D, 7800X3D and 5800X3D comparison is still interesting as those are all top of the line gaming CPUs (it’s crazy how well the 5800X3D still holds up) but anything else is silly imho
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I disagree. I think there are a lot of cash-strapped people out there that might be tempted by the promises of a 50 series card, and crossing their fingers that the card will/can take any heavy lifting off the hands of their older cpu/motherboards, which they can maybe upgrade later when they can gather the money.
For them, this might be vital information that the people who have the money to just completely upgrade everything in one burst might tend to let go by the wayside.
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We are talking about GPUs that cost a lot of money, not something someone on a budget would even consider
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I think that’s an incorrect assumption. I think there’s a reason for so many people being in credit card debt right now, and yet another reason for the explosion for payment installment options via various stores and alternatives like AFFIRM, SEZZLE, KLARNA, AFTERPAY, UPLIFT, and probably a zillion more…
People can get these cards if they want, but they might not be able to pay it all up front, which means strategic decisions are in order.
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