Yeah, but there are plenty of gamers out there who think that just getting a new GPU will help them. Totally oblivious to details such as PCIe scaling and the fact that you’re still going to be CPU bound.
But I haven’t watched the video as that screaming face is such a turn off…
I mean, being CPU bound doesn’t mean your card will run that bad. Sure, you’ll loose some performance, but in most cases you’lll be just fine, and in most cases it will still outperform the other cards (albeit for a lot more money). Flight simulation in VR is actually a pretty extreme situation.
-now if we were going to make a case that most people don’t need and definitely should not get a 5090… well that would be true even if it didn’t throttle in those old CPUs, lol
Maybe that’s just th German in me talking but if I have to take a credit to buy a new computer part then I simply don’t. I would question my priorities even thinking about doing this for an entertainment product.
I mean yeah, that’s what different benchmarks are for. You look at CPU benchmarks and GPU benchmarks to see which upgrade makes the most sense for you. What he’s doing here is benchmark different CPUs under the guise of benchmarking a GPU. Just call it CPU benchmarks and drop the silly click bait.
All I’m saying is that gamers in general seem to have unrealistic expectations when it comes to new hardware.
I’m curious if you actually watched the video. Just because I’ve learned over time that many in the community, as a general rule seem to have an aversion to youtube, and the term clickbait flies around pretty freely, sourced from that general disdain.
As far as purchasing decisions, it seems that many people have no objections to payment alternatives:
As of November 2024, Affirm had over 320,000 merchant partners worldwide. In the United States, Affirm is integrated with more than 60% of e-commerce.
Now, It’s not my place to get into the wisdom of such purchasing decisions; I’m just pointing out that assumptions regarding the inability of people-on-a-budget to buy/possess these cards might not be completely accurate.
By the way, the incoming 5080 reviews are pretty uniformly negative.
I agree. For me as the owner of R7 3700X, X570 is this information very useful. I would like to do an upgrade GPU for RX 9070/9070X because of 16GB VRAM and now I have an idea (at least rawly) how much R7 3700X = R5 5600X will limit me.
51% slower than the R7 9800X3D
Well it’s not like the manufacturers don’t egg people on with deliberate misrepresentations like that of a 5070 being faster than a 4090…
Count me emphatically among that group. Because with few exceptions (not pointing at any particular Mudspiker) I always regret the time wasted as payment for little to no real information. There is a look that raises flags. That thumbnail is a classic example of how a video can scream “CLICKBAIT”. My policy now is to never watch a video unless I have some idea of the content, usually in the form of a synopsis by the individual posting.
To me, it’s simply academic. A sometimes puzzling datapoint, like the deep strain of almost violent pacifism that (also) seems to run through the community, with its general dismissal for aerial warfighting sims; one of the reasons I eventually found another home at Mudspike, where people didn’t go nearly ballistic at the very concept.
But even Mudspike has the whole anti-youtube thing to an extent, and it reminds me of an incident when I posted a video by Obsidianant on another forum, and it was instantly attacked using the familiar gripes about youtubers, clickbait, todays youth and etc.
Surprisingly, Obsidianant joined the forum during this, after somehow finding out his video was being discussed, and introduced himself in a friendly fashion, after which a lot of passive aggressive gripping about youtubers got even louder and he (unsurprisingly) disappeared, never, as far as I know, to return.
I can observe stuff like that, but I’ll almost certainly never share that kind of visceral dislike toward a simple media sharing platform and its users. I squint an eye, and lean my head sideways at the phenomena, and sometimes wonder if its some type of shared community affectation.
Not a biggie, but I find it interesting.
They want to sell, and “this is probably not for you” said no salesperson, ever
That’s not what I see, or feel.
It’s the fact that youtube content creators are also selling us their information by misleading headlines and intro pictures, a.k.a clickbait. They earn actual money if we click and watch their content, which means their no. 1 incentive for making that video is to get paid, not providing useful community information.
And youtube, as a platform, will promote videos that are clicked and popular and will pay them accordingly. This, of course, mean that content creators must compete for the viewers attention by making even more outrageous statements and graphics… So content creators become salespersons, not information providers.
Hmmmmm… Some have turned it into a paying job, but in this niche hobby, that’s probably a relatively low number. I myself did the occasional video here and there, but nothing professional, and I certainly made no money nor did I expect to. I was just being part of the community and sharing random info. (I still have a strong sharing instinct)
I do see some comical facial expressions and over-the-top titles here and there, but I just expect that in a place where everyone is in competition for your attention, and I have an excellent resistance to distractions when looking for information.
As long as I get the data I’m seeking, the Youtuber could be standing on their head with their eyes crossed and I would barely notice. (I do hate really annoying voices, though)
In the end I suspect I quite enjoy some Youtubers that might just drive you mad!
True, but I was thinking more video content in general.
I had my little disorganized channel, where I published vids about my Viggen stick and SimBox, mostly. That’s until they took down my video about a Fokker Dr.I rudder due to hate speech. Come to think of it, that was the only video I had, with me in it…! Maybe I should take a hint…?
I guess we all have our triggers…
I’m gonna make a bet that most of us here who did videos, did them about equipment. I usually end up grabbing the latest graphics card and doing FPS vids.
Right now I’ve taken the steps to test DLSS4, and my monitor is pretty firmly pegged at its max FPS.
Making me not really see the pressing need (beyond the usual tech-lust) for a 5-series card…
Unless there‘s suddenly a good reason to have a lot of tensor cores? I‘ve been wondering about that lately.
A table listing recent GPUs with their estimated TOPS (Tensor Operations Per Second) values, sorted in descending order:
GPU Model | Estimated TOPS |
---|---|
NVIDIA RTX 5090 | 3,352 |
NVIDIA RTX 5080 | 2,800 |
NVIDIA RTX 4090 | 1,321 |
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX | 1,075 |
NVIDIA RTX 4080 | 1,058 |
NVIDIA RTX 4080 Super | 1,100 |
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT | 960 |
NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti | 766 |
NVIDIA RTX 4070 | 562 |
AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT | 414 |
I am running 3070 mobile.
instead of buying 3k gpu I bought my self new sim AFS4 for 30 which has better performance than XP or MSFS.
I am happy camper
Not the worst move, to be honest! Plenty of fun to be had on computers without breaking the bank.
When price and availability are, themselves, unrealistic expectations who can blame them!
Certainly not I! I’ve fallen for this trap so many times myself…