Lost in limbo it appears.
Just quickly poking my head in to say I did get mine about a month back, and am still working this week to get my sim pit from down to up status.
That said, agree with all the feedback so far based on some quick tinkering. Love everything but the dinky feeling control levers. Sure to be Remedied by the aftermarket and/or 3D printer as others have noted.
I also will add the very minor gripe of it being very space-inefficent. They seemed to mimic the yoke housing for the back side, but that results in what seems like a lot of wasted space. I cant imagine all the electronics taking up all that space unless they were using vacuum tubes. On the yoke they need that for (presumably) the telescoping shaft mechanism. Would love to have seen more thoughtful use of the space, perhaps as a storage compartment for the extra axis nobs when not in use.
Yeah, completely agree. Of course mine showed up a day after I posted the limbo image above.
There is much to like about it, like @PaulRix comments about the proper gear handle. I donât mind the size and appreciate the flat part on the top, which is removable on the Alpha yoke to reduce physical space uptake. The mounting system is simple and works well for my environment. I donât regret the purchase, because I donât think that other than building a sim pit with a bunch of separate high grade components, you would get such functionality as you have with this single, reasonably priced controller.
But it could be better. I understand what Honeycomb were trying to do, which is give us the best ROI. But the control levers, especially the commercial a/c set, are so tiny, toy-like, and unsubstantial feeling, that I would gladly have paid $100 more for better design in this area. The friction adjustment feels very much like a compromise. In order to get the detent area at the bottom of the motion, you canât really adjust them to be as smooth as the levers could have been. And that T/O button on the commercial handle is going to be hard to find in VR.
Although I amazed at what garage engineers, like @Troll, have come up with to enhance sim pit gear (that CM2 throttle lift/detent mod is amazing), the Bravo commercial levers will be a challenge, IMO.
I would imagine that version 2.0 will address this. Itâs their first effort, so Honeycomb deserves praise for bringing it to a niche market. Hopefully, their ROI will justify continuity in their business. They should get a big boost from the FS2020 release.
After some use, I have to admit that the handle size for the throttles doesnât bother me much anymore. If Iâm flying a single engine airplane, I leave the Bravo configured for a twin and just move the two throttle levers as one. That should save wear and tear on the contacts too.
The jet throttles are tiny, but they work nicely and I soon got used to them. My main concern now is their durability so I try to be careful with them.
Just posting in case someone missed it like I did, but both the Honeycomb support and Aerosoft Bravo product pages have links to the Aerosoft drivers which enable the annunciator panel, autopilot, and gear light on the Bravo in FS2020. FYI, since there is no PITOT HEAT light, when switched off, the ANTI ICE light illuminates, as does LOW HYD PRESSURE when flying a/c without hydraulic systems.
http://freeware.aerosoft.com/forum/downloads/AS_HONEYCOMB_MSFS.zip
You guys have such sexy looking units.
Given that 6 of the 7 switches on the Bravo are redundant for Alpha yoke owners, Iâm contemplating what to assign them. Perhaps things like fuel pumps, ice protection, and prop sync. Maybe interior lights.
Some of the default settings with the Bravo have me scratching my head a bit with MSFS2020. For example, when I use the mode selector for the right hand knob, it shouldnât change the autopilot mode too. Whoever thought that was a good idea has not flown a real aircraft with an autopilot. Iâm going to have to sit down and reprogram that at some point.
I thought I installed that yesterday, but got an error saying the connector crashed when starting up. Will try again today.
Working fine for me so far in the DA62, CJ4, and Savage Cub.
I got this when trying to run the executable that the AS driver drops in your Community folder without the sim running. You donât need to run it anyway. Just leave it there with the .json file and you should be good to go when the sim starts.
Nope, not working
Also doesnât work trying to start it manually after the sim loads.
Meh, not a big deal right bow.
All that said, got some hours in with the honeycomb alpha/bravo combo in msfs today. Some assorted thoughts:
-getting used to the tiny handles; they arent immersion breaking.
-swapping between Complex GA and twin engine jet setups is fun. Even with the tiny controls, raking back the reversers is a cool.
-The autopilot is gaming changing for me. Being able to use a real dial to adjust settings beats the tar off of mouse wheeling everything. Its up there with TrackIR in the âwhy didnât I get this sooner?â Category.
-not the fault of honeycomb, but complex GA twins is a weak spot for MSFS right now. The Baron doesnât count as it doesnât work; the mixture control still doesnât do anything. The diamond ironically doesnât really need a quadrant, as FADEC does the lever pulling. I picked up the piper from carenado, but I wish it had the Barons speed. This will be remedied in time, but a bit of a drag right now.
-Honeycomb is a weird name for a flight sim peripheral maker, righht?
Well, at least its innocuous, unlike say thrustmaster, which has been the butt of many a bawdy joke over the years.
Yeah, I was always annoyed they stole my street nameâŠ
Thrustmaster cougar always reminded me of a middle age divorcee.
Thrustmaster warthog is the kind of girl you pick up and donât call back after a night outâŠ
Iâd call it The Right Stuff if I were to start making flight sim stuff.
Larger B737/jet handles for the Bravo
Do you know if they have reverser levers? Iâm definitely interested in picking up a set.
Edit > I guess not. Pity, because they look good.
Yup, debating grabbing them just to use for single engine birds as a larger handle.