Internet in Germany - what to choose

Hey there, I’d like to ask a quick Q to our German residents…
What Internet do you have and how much do you pay?

(Feel free to DM me if you want to protect some of the information…)

I’m not really impressed by what a quick internet search brought up…

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Telekom, 50 Mbit/s (I get 40), for 40€

No other options available.

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Same here.
I get the 50 and I could get 100 but I don’t need it.
40 bucks.

An alternative would be Vodafone/UnityMedia, however I keep hearing a lot of negative things about their customer support. With Telekom I have not had any bad experiences yet, although I am sure others have.

1und1 is only a Telekom reseller (so never faster) but they reportedly have pretty fast support.
My parents are happy with it so far.

Usually the Telekom is a few Euros more expensive than others (they are legally obligated to, because they have a monopoly, they own the telephone lines).

I use a rented router, which works fine so far.
I had one that failed and it was replaced within less than two days. A lightning strike destroyed another one, and that was replaced within three days.

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Ok, I see…

Browsing a bit more I did find a Vodafone offer on their website for new installations, that gives 100Mbit (no TV, no mobile options) using my own Router for 39,99/Mo. (first 12 Mo are 19,99).

The website promise they can install it in our home - did anyone have bad stories about these being lies?
Is it acceptable to call them for confirmation?

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I’m a Vodafone customer for almost 10 years now. 100 MBit cable. There where some issues a few years back but it’s pretty stable. Customer support is kind of a lottery but I think thats a shared experience with the competitors.

As with almost all offers in that market you can save a few bucks if you cancel the contract before it extends automatically. They will contact you and make a new offer similiar to the conditions a new customer would get. It’s a stupid and annoying system but you can buy one or two DCS modules for the saved money.

I’m around 40 EUR but this includes the fee for basic TV (no pay tv or HD).

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Yeah I think it’s a good offer.
Coaxial is available in the NRW but not in my town…
Up to 1Gbit for 10€ more; i was literally salivating.

Now we’re looking into mobile offers. @_@

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If the line has been there for a few years, German Telekom knows exactly how fast it is.
So the amount of lies is rather low.

Best indication is to ask a neighbor.

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Another thing…
We’re looking into buying an used car as a second vehicle.
A newer Yaris is ok for us.
Do you have any dealership to suggest? Some to avoid?

I think that’s a local thing. I am too far away to give recommendations.

Yaris is good, the Energizer Bunny of cars.

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My main line is a Vodafone Kabel Deutschland cable connection with 400 MBit/s for ~55 Euro per month. Works decently and most of the time.
For travelling I have a Telekom Speedbox, LTE cell connection, limited to 100 GB/month. Due to Corona I’m not traveling anymore so I expire the contract in May. If you want to try out the Speedbox drop me a private message and we can arrange something.

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IMHO, don’t do it. I’d take a slower DSL line over a DOCSIS line over mobile. It depends a lot about how many subscribers are on the same line as you are, but cable sucks, as the bandwidth is traffic dependant. With DSL, unless something dies, you always get the same bandwidth. Unfortunately if you are far from the exchange, bandwidth will suck via DSL.

Sorry I wrote poorly, what I meant is we need to get SIM cards for our phones.

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Personally I use Aldi talk because I’m cheap like that. :slight_smile:

For a couple of years they had the best roaming fees (zero) when commuting to Switzerland, that’s why my choice again was very limited.

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Ha! Nice to know! :wink::+1:

Roaming fees are a thing of the past, aren’t they? At least within the :eu: ?

Don’t they do fiber where you’re at Paolo?

Switzerland isn’t in the EU. One never knows whether they are included or not.

Nope, no fiber. Only some parts of NRW are with coaxial.

Germany’s last mile is still ruled by copper. There is not much fibre available. Heck we even have some areas where people are lucky to get DSL (1-2 MBit).

Telekom as the big player says that they won’t do the trenchwork when they are forced to sell capacities for these new lines to the competitors who in turn can make better offers to consumers (see @Aginor’s comment above). If you’re lucky there is a local provider who does his own digging.

Regarding used cars I agree with @Poneybirds . Very local thing. In general you can choose from three option:

  • Official dealerships often have used cars. Pretty low risk, they even provide guarantees at a premium. Often the most expensive option.
  • The infamous used car sales sites. Gravel parking lot. Sales oriented personnel. You know what I mean. If you’re good at negotiating you might makea deal. Bring someone who can do a quick technical check. In theory they are obliged to some form of basic guarantee (we call this “Gewährleistung” and it’s part of consumer rights law). Could get dirty if you actually try to make claims after you bought the car
  • Private sales (e.g. mobile.de or ebay Kleinanzeigen). Anything can happen. No guarentees when it is declared as a private sale. High risk. Might finda good deal though.

If there is an indepedent garage (as in car repair) nearby you might give them a call and ask if they have a reliable car around. Maybe they have a customer who’s looking to sell. Can’t be very picky in that case though :wink:

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Which is fine, in combination with FTTC, or vectoring if the exchange isn’t too far away. I mean, who really needs >100MBit atm?

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