MAD AAR - pics, tales of adventure and lessons learned!

Challenge accepted!

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That makes sense - thank you for explaining.

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goodluck1

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What @smokinhole said
! :rofl:

Put it this way. The missed approach point (MAP) is 1.3 miles beyond YK at 3,754’ AGL. Normally at 1.3 miles you’d be around 400’ to 500’ on the normal 3 degree landing path. That is why there is no straight in landing minimums published because you can’t possibly get low enough far enough out to make a normal landing. Even at the CG NDB you are at 8,000’ (6,374’ AGL) where you should be about 2,700’ AGL. The terrain just doesn’t allow for it. So you go down
hope to see the runway/airport and carefully circle to land
 (actually I see the MAP is actually .5nm west of the airport
so some of those WAG numbers are actually a little worse than what I calculated) And note the circling diagram that pretty much shows you have to circle west of the field
the least worst place
haha


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Hey @Bearhedge. It made sense but I didn’t take a close enough look. This is a circling approach. So yes you are fully expected to circle from 5900 (EDIT: make that 5380. I really need to pay attention before pecking away on the keyboard.) and land either direction. Don’t think of this as an instrument approach in the classic sense. It is an instrument descent into visual conditions where you can safely enter a visual pattern.

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Oops. @BeachAV8R beat me to it.

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Oooh. A challenge!

Been wanting to try one of those, just haven’t found an approach yet (where I’ve flown).

I flew the approach with the ceiling down to 5800’. There are a couple of problems with PROVING it properly: 1) The DC-3 doesn’t replay correctly. The airplane does fine but the flight instruments are stuck at 6000’ and 120 knots. 2) I recorded the whole thing in OBS but don’t really know how to transfer that file to my Mac for editing. So, take my word for it. I flew it well. I remembered to “double the correction” and drag the tail and all that fun stuff I used to teach 30+ years ago. If you want proof you will have to drive up to seven-one-nine Hartwell Street in Teaneck and I’ll show you the video. We can down a few tumblers of 1792 while we watch. The approach is actually a very instructive one for NDB approaches. I guess that’s why @BeachAV8R picked it. The separate DME for the missed approach is something I have never seen before and honestly didn’t know existed. The VSKYLABS DC-3 has an RMI with 2 needles. I kept the “fat” focused on “CG” and the skinny on YK but selected at VOR so it wouldn’t confuse me on the 1st half of the approach. I came in from the west at 10,000 and made a full procedure turn with a 1 minute outbound leg. The only part that had me sweating was the FAF inbound leg. I forgot to unload some weight from the previous flight so I was close to 3000 pounds under max. With gear down and 1 notch of flaps, it took 31" just to maintain 5900’ and 120 knots. Nothing out there helps rebuild a proper instrument scan like a non-precision approach. So even though I cannot share my proud moment of doing it passably, it was a great exercise for me. Especially as I will be going back into the sim next week and haven’t flown since late-March.

This is the downwind leg to RWY 15 after coming in and breaking out from the opposite direction.

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Another MAD trip as I slowly make my way back from Quatam. This one was from KSHN (Sanderson, Field) to 6S9 (Stehekin State). I studied neither the route nor the weather. All I knew was that the trip was short at 116nm and rich, paying MAD $76000. I was overloaded by 1000lbs in order to have plenty of gas. I like plenty of gas. I climbed through the clouds hoping for 9500’ but was too heavy to get there and settled on 8700. I really thought I was over the plateau and began a gentle descent 35nm out. Imagine my surprise when I broke out to some of the scariest most most beautiful rocks I have seen in X-Plane.

If you haven’t seen this part of Washington in ortho it really is worth the trip. The mineral content (I guess) gives the granite intensely saturated coloring. It looks more like a scene from Avatar than anything terrestrial. But in the moment I wasn’t appreciating the beauty. I was thinking more along the lines of, “Holy Merde Smokin’ you really screwed the pooch on this one!” It was one of those sim moments that so closely aligned with my real-life flying nightmares that a big chill went up my spine and was hard to shake. 6S9 is boxed in a fairly tight canyon with a river running through the middle.

I had to fly a bowtie descent over the field to stay safely off the walls. The strip seemed shorter than 2600’ and I let myself get slow and dropped it in with the yoke in my gut. “Rather Positive” was the grade, “It’ll buff out” was an unneeded bit of snark to further heighten the shame. Fortunately, cash heals all wounds.

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Man, seems like AH2 flights are a lot more generous with the cash


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That seems very true
 Then again we don’t have to go through some sort of reputation grind in FSE, which I see everybody complaining about!

The amounts are higher, but I think the costs are higher too.

Plus cygon is flying a dc3. I’m making max 10K in revenue in a 172. Less landing fees, fuel, etc


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I am usually doing 1k in Bell206 :smile: :wink:

Next stop is good example 0.8k but the place sounds very interesting Grand Coulee Dam. And it is in the general direction of KEAT however 55NM NE :slight_smile:

Did I mention already that I really like this Global Forests addon, it makes the scenery much more lively with the good placement and diverse variety of trees

Visitors!

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Well, I thought I might take my first attempt at describing an adventure. I finally got Pilot2ATC all setup so decided to finally get a good flight in with it doing an Air Hauler 2 run in XP-11. I find myself enjoying Pilot2ATC so much that I may even end up giving Vatsim or PilotEdge a go as I get more practice on the mic in.

The flight at hand was a short jaunt from KMMV (McMinnville Municipal Airport, OR) up to KAWO (Arlington, WA) with a load of Tea delivered by yours truly, Praqzis Logistics. You’d think they’d have plenty of tea or could import it from closer to Seattle, but I suppose they wanted Tea sent from Wine Country in the Willamette Valley that bad. Who’d have thought?

The weather certainly wasn’t on my side. But as this isn’t real life, I thought I’d give it a go in real-world weather anyways. Thunderstorms, rain, and all. It was one of those days that there was no way I’d fly in real life, especially in an airborne inflatable raft like a Skyhawk (if I were a real life pilot that is, which I’m sadly not). But how bad could it be, right? I have insurance and it’s not like I’ll be dying in real life :P.

Take off out of McMinnville wasn’t too bad. Clouds were still at a ceiling of 8000ft or so.

It was short-lived though as the weather rolled in quite quickly. Not even 10nm out of KMMV and already I could hear the Hans Zimmer soundtrack firing up in the background. Bad times are comin’, methinks.

Then, straight out of a Stephen King novel, the Fog started rolling in. I started to find myself ascending into the soup. Hopefully there wouldn’t be any bodysnatchers waiting there for me.

And then before I knew it, it felt like I was starting to find myself transitioning into an episode of The Deadliest Catch. Was I delivering the finest tea from wine country, or was I getting ready to crab fish in the Bering Sea? It’s certainly not the most fun place to find yourself surrounded by a thin layer of tin foil.

Luckily, the storm broke around Tacoma and I was greeted with a great flyover of the Tacoma Dome. Because, you know, it’s in Tacoma and
 well
 it’s a Dome. How creative! It kinda looks like a hub cap from the sky to be honest. So I shall now call it the Tacoma Hubcap.

By the time I went flying past Seattle at the incredibly furious pace of a maxed out Ford Pinto, the weather had cleared and it was smooth sailing up into Arlington. I could now unleash all 160 horspers of the Lycoming four cylinder at my disposal. Eat your freakin’ heart out Toyota Camry. Who’s the jelly one now?

So the good thing was that the finest of teas from the wine country of the Willamette Valley managed to arrive safely in Arlington, WA. But there was nobody to greet me like the hero I was :frowning:. Didn’t they know what kind of weather I braved to deliver these finest of goods to them? Not one clap, not one cheer, no “hazard pay”, and not even a single “thank you.” P’shaw! Color me not surprised. :P. I would say “never again”, but I’m guessing that this isn’t the last time Praqzis Logistics will be delivering goods into KAWO.

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Very nice! I need to mess with my settings a bit. I had to drop the textures a notch because the DA62 I picked up was KILLING my fps (like
 8fps) at max textures with 1080. I may need to go one notch lower
 the eclipse was better today, but as soon as clouds pop in, oof. I should be good with one notch lower. So depressing having to lower settings :slight_smile:
And my tax return wasn’t enough to justify upgrading the computer. My wife’s on the other hand
 hmmm


Found a nice little route from KGCN to L41. Made about 15k on a 100nm round trip, and the views over the Grand Canyon were pretty exceptional. Forgot to take pics, but highly recommend trying it. Our Quest Kodiak is parked at KGCN so if anyone wants to try it!

LOL
I’d always take your word for it dude.

Sorry about the late reply. Out of town for a few days with no cell or internet service (in the Linville Gorge if your familiar with that area
so awesome
)


I almost guarantee you that most newly minted IFR pilots these days would probably have never heard “drag the tail”. Although, I guess they still have to teach it because you do have some initial approach fixes that use an NDB. I’ll bet you’d get blank looks most of the time though


Yeah
dual RMI is definitely better than one or two fixed card ADF receivers. The RMI and HSI were instruments that, once I graduated to planes that had them, made things seem so much easier.

Great to hear. Yeah
I enjoy those as well. I’m back in the sim out at DFW in July. Fun times.

Haha
that’s awesome. I remember going into some airfields at night (Charleston, WV) before I ever got to see them in the daylight and when I did I was like “oh
wow
OK
” :sweat_smile:

I’ve run into terrain before in VR at night when I’ve failed an engine trying to do a tough SID or something and each time those landing lights showing the impact coming gives me the heebejeebees


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