Cheers. Missed that. But what I suspected.
Its easy to be excited with this videos of these kind of sims and start endless discussions and dreams about these sims vs what we have now in our pcs (bms, dcs, ā¦).
What people forget or not know is that the military professional market are flooded with these kind of sims many of them completely kickass dcs/bms in specific features.
These kind of sims many times is like watching a NASA mars mission and dreamming that in the next saturn mission you will be the guy that will land there. Plausible, yes, but availability is almost zero.
These sims many times have the visual engine desagregated from the simulation software, also requiring a server cluster to afford only the visual engine to run as the military specifications. Usually these are zero stutters and real position landmarks, better than if have grass or not or other eye candies. If you see that video sometimes you see the land in detail and its worst than even the IL2 1946 (without any objects/trees and sometimes low res textures).
also some sims have other problems, they not support or have rendering of cockpit because all the gauges and cockpit displays and controls are using a real cockpit hardware.
They are cool and nice to see yes, but my excitement goes out very fast, the same way when i go to a car show exposition and see some ultra hi tech prototypes.
And no, its not the end of DCS as the same as many other military sims not killed our sims and they already exist for years.
Do a deep search on military and army simulators and military visual/virtual engines and its like opening the pandora box of what exist in this market, thi NOR is another oneā¦on a beach of 100s of them.
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Did somebody mentioned BMS and VR? Whatās going on?! Christmas is coming, be ready. 
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Donāt tease me
New Metrea vid out.
Their videos sure have a lot of flightsimmer appeal, for a simulation platform rumored to be for a professional market only.
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Came up on my feed as wellā¦you beat me to it!
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Just in time to train the first Ukrainians!
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nothinā āNegativeā to say about that videoā¦
However I do have āNeutralā thoughts about the afterburnerā¦ as well as the lack of wing bobble when they release 4 bombs and pulled out at 6gās
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is it the latest Unreal Engine? it definitely looks cool, but thats it.
what flight simers wants is dynamic campaign and I guess they wont develop that in no time 
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Flightsimmers want a lot of thingsā¦! 
When I watched that video I couldnāt help thinking Who is the target audience? If I were a potential professional customer, I guess Iād like to see more of the systems fidelityā¦?
I mean, most vids showcasing the DCS Viper usually is more in-depth than this.
Not knocking Metrea in any way, I just thought it was a bit odd.
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I am definitely not excited about it that much. what is imo cool about profi sims is not the visuals of course (which they can change a little now with Unreal Engine).
the cool things about profi sims is the force-feedback, the motion platforms or g-seats, etc. things which are way too expensive for us flight simers.
here few interesting āsmallerā things
NOVASIM VR | MR - BRUNNER (brunner-innovation.swiss)
MODULAR SIMULATION PLATFORM - BRUNNER (brunner-innovation.swiss)
Dynamic Motion Seats (DMS) | ACME Worldwide (acme-worldwide.com)
on the other hand even our none-motion home cockpits can be considered profi-grade Flight Training Devices.
add to that some ffb stick and jetseat vibration pad or buttkicker and we are right there with the pros.
Like a Firefox! Donāt need to worry about ailing limbs - just think it = do it!
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Brilliant! 
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If I remember from what others have told me itās ācommercial playersā in the military training simulation market. We as personal PC gamers get nothing out of it other than being teased.
Yes. Thatās correct.
But my point was that the video didnāt seem to be adressed to the professional market.
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Yep, correct and I was told people in our position (personal PC gamers) are asking exactly what you just did, why show us a video of a product we will never be able to use? The answer, according to someā¦no one knows.
Slow day at the office maybe?
Yeah, who knows. I guess pro commercial/military prospective customers watch youtube tooā¦
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When it was first announced I was hyped; however, after finding out it is geared toward the professional/military market my excitement faded. The recent video has not done much for me either. I didnāt notice much more than what the DCS Viper offers. I might be biased. 
interesting thing is that they render virtual cockpit. the question is why? if this is going to be some kind of VR sim then I would guess that mixed reality is the future, physical cockpit with the outside rendered in virtual reality.
if they are aiming for full VR experience with some VR glows then the only difference to the desktop sim are going to be the better implemented VR glows I would say.
from this point of view I am curious how the final implementation will look like.
there is also possibility that they will work only on the sim engine part and wont offer full solutions including hw, who knows.