New old FALCON Series?

Anything like Falcon 3.0 or 4.0 is genuinely perfect for me.
I don;t really want to waste tiome learning single switches or which Circuit Breaker to pop back in.
Gimme the dyunamic campaign and the world map and I’m golden.

I literally still play Falcon 3.0- bloody brilliant.

Imagine if Falcon 5.0 could interface with CMANO.

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If Falcon5 is at about SF2 level of systems complexity, or even early Falcon4, I’ll be like a pig in the muck with it.

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I know right???

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Man. Few things in my gaming life hurt like finding out how much SF2 fricking rocked 15 years after the fact.
If i had known what i know now

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It took alot of Modding and teething to get to that point though,
SF2 was rocky from the start, and the removal of MP was a big blow.
SFP1 / WoE / WoV was fantastic prior to the shift to SF2 Core.

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I know that I’m in the minority, but I’d be really happy with BMS in its current state with some updated terrain.

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Well that IS coming.

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That’s fair. Okay, expectations dampened, I was just kind of spoiled by BMS.

But, at the same time, that’s kind of a selling point, now. They need to match BMS.

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Why? They already have a BMS. Presenting something different is their best bet, IMHO.

Okay, I’ll rephrase it, slightly different. It’s still Falcon after all.

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I see your point, but I’m talking about fidelity. I should have clarified, my mistake.

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No worries. It’s just talk anyways until we see the product. ^-^

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I dare say from a business standpoint they’d be shooting themselves in the foot doing that.

There’s two behemoths out there both simulating the F-16 at high levels of fidelity (BMS has a bit more in depth systems and a DC, DCS has the graphics and the interoperability with other AC types). You can not do significantly better than those without getting into dangerous waters with the DoD, while we’re talking about an investment for at the very least half a decade of development. Even if they managed to outdo both of those, they’d still have to sell it for people to leave their platform of choice and jump over, there’s some inertia to that as well.

I’m not sure how deep their pockets are, but if I had any stake in Microprose, that’d be a hard nay from me.

Would have been nice if they went for the F-16A in a 1980s setting. That would set Falcon 5 appart nicely from BMS and DCS while also easying the fidelity problem a bit.

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F-16 BLK 70, F35, F-22, F-117(for good measure) and a Bomber(B-1 or B-2) and give them FC3 fidelity or a little better and a dynamic campaign and BAM! you would have a great sim IMHO of course.

Not sure I would buy Falcon 5 just for an F-16.

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Not to be disrespectful but… what can the F-16A do anyways?
I mean surely it would be quite the departure from modern offerings but…

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I hope we get some OPFOR too… At FC3/SF2 level shouldn’t be that hard.

I literally salivate at the idea of “Better/Modern Strike Fighters 2 with Multi Player”

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Yeah throw in some SU-30, SU-57, TU-160 maybe, and a SU-34 for some fun. Oh man that would be fun.

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I had the same thought, but then thought about how much of a BFM monster it was at the time.

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I would like that too…

The Israelis used F-16A’s when they conducted Op. Opera in 1981.
But I totally see your point. I doubt most people have the same desires as @MBot and I.
In fact, I’m asking myself if a new F-16 sim will appeal to the masses, at all? But that may be why there’s talk abut the F-35? Then again, the Falcon will make the headlines again as the Ukraine will be getting a bunch of them…

If someone asked me, I’d say do a remake of EF-2000 instead.

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Since it didn’t have BVR missiles, only dumb bombs and no MFDs, it stood for a different era of air combat. It was all about dogfighting and bombing stuff with a pipper on target. I think that would be a pretty popular playstyle with players that still enjoy a good simulation but are not that into the deep system simulation of BMS or DCS.

Of course there is also the historical appeal of it. Israeli F-16A did the vast majority of the Falcon’s air-air kills in close dogfights during the 1980s (I think around 50). And as mentioned by @Troll, there was also the famous Israeli nuclear reactor raid. And of course during the 1980s the F-16A was the hot stuff in Central Europe, which due to the sheer scale probably only the Falcon’s DC could do justice.

If Falcon 5 wants to do Korea again, North Korea isn’t really an opposition anymore. Their Air Force is practically still in the 1980s. From a gameplay perspective I always thought it would make sense to dial the time back when they were still somewhat a threat.

The F-16A might have been an opportunity to do something a bit different than DCS/BMS while still honoring the Falcon name of the series.

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