Struggling a bit with the decision when to order my upgrade. I am pretty much set on the build ( New Rig 2024 | Wunschlisten Geizhals Deutschland ) and I could order everything for about 2000€ right now. My main concern is the CPU. I am able to pre-order the 9800X3D for 20€ above MSRP which I find acceptable but it probably won’t arrive before the end of the year so I would be sitting on a bunch of hardware I can’t use for a month…
The RAM is on the compatibility list for that board and I am pretty confident it will run at 6000MT/s.
For the GPU I am planning to get a 5090 next year as well as a new VR headset (which one I am yet to decide). In the meantime I will keep using my 3080TI in the new build once the CPU arrives.
If the 9800X3D was available right now I wouldn’t think twice (scalpers don’t count, I am not paying ludicrous prices for the CPU). So, the question is: order now and then wait for the CPU to arrive or wait for the CPU to become available and then order everything. Aaaaaargh
It’s your money and your choice, but for something like a CPU where they’re all from the same random silicon lottery I hate the idea of paying above MSRP.
Of course, I’ve got a gaming PC I’m happy enough with to wait until the first time the chip goes on sale probably mid next year … if you need that upgrade and it’s worth it to you then pull that trigger!
Also it might just be a thing from where I am, but I’d want to get it all in one go - the shops here have to give you a one year warranty, but if you pick up a part, find it’s faulty, then come back within a week or two usually it’s a smoother and quicker process to get a replacement (in my experience. It shouldn’t be. But it is).
Yeah, that’s my problem. Ordinarily I’d just wait a few months but I have had random blue screens for the last months that I haven’t been able to track down. Memtest, disk check etc didn’t come up with anything and it isn’t regular or connected to a specific activity…
I agree with @Torc - I usually won’t pay above MSRP, but I have also timed upgrades so that I am buying ‘current’ gen when the next generation is just around the corner and stores are starting to discount the hardware.
If you need it now, 20€ is only an extra 1% on top what you are already going to be paying… I’ll take those odds on the silicon lottery.
Thanks for the input guys, I’ll sleep on it for a few days before making a decision. Probably pull the trigger but it’s a lot of money.
Yeah it’s annoying. I am not worried about losing any important data though. I have multiple backups for the important things, local, off-site and online.
Thought about that, but don’t really like the idea.
Frankly, the 7800X3D is hardly a poor choice. I think it needs an AM4 socket board instead of AM5 though, and then you’re not in a position to upgrade to a newer one without a new mobo again.
So if you can bear to wait, the 9800X3D is worth waiting for even at a measly 20 over stock price. If you really can’t, though, I don’t think you’d be let down by a 7800X3D even though your next upgrade round will cost you a bit more.
I’m also in the game for buying a new rig in 2025.
I’m looking for 9800X3D and either a RTX5080 or the newly announced 5070Ti which should be released in Feb 25.
Looking back to recent hardware releases I’m a little concerned about scalpers. I hope AMD and nVidia are flooding the market with so many products that this strategy won’t work this time.
My current rig is a 7 year old i7700 / 1070 (non Ti). It’s amazing how this keeps on performing if you don’t use VR but a 1080p monitor. Still getting 50-100 fps on Syria MP with low-medium settings.
You should be all right from scalpers by midyear after the releases have time to fill all the “day 1” orders.
The 2020/2021 scalping was due to the whole Crypto/AI nonsense…
I’d personally get the 9800X3D and skimp on the GPU if necessary to make that happen (on the theory that you’ll update the GPU before the platform and CPU) - but make sure you get a GPU with at least 16GB Vram!
Ooof, thast sucks…
I was intending to order everything last night and because I wanted to save shipping costs I waited until after midnight… Well I should have just ordered before midnight. The shop delisted the 9800X3D again. Their backlog of orders probably exceed some limit.
I’ll immediately order next time it becomes available.
That RAM is good… do we trust Asus boards again now?
As an aside, I’m hearing there are problems with MSI AMD AM5 motherboards at the moment - they seem to have some power management issue and cause the CPU to run hot?
I’m not sure if it was ever really true, but I remember when we thought there were some brands you could just trust to do the job properly, even if they were a bit more expensive…