New Rig for 2025

Struggling a bit with the decision when to order my upgrade. I am pretty much set on the build ( New Rig 2024 | Wunschlisten Geizhals Deutschland ) and I could order everything for about 2000€ right now. My main concern is the CPU. I am able to pre-order the 9800X3D for 20€ above MSRP which I find acceptable but it probably won’t arrive before the end of the year so I would be sitting on a bunch of hardware I can’t use for a month…

The RAM is on the compatibility list for that board and I am pretty confident it will run at 6000MT/s.

For the GPU I am planning to get a 5090 next year as well as a new VR headset (which one I am yet to decide). In the meantime I will keep using my 3080TI in the new build once the CPU arrives.

If the 9800X3D was available right now I wouldn’t think twice (scalpers don’t count, I am not paying ludicrous prices for the CPU). So, the question is: order now and then wait for the CPU to arrive or wait for the CPU to become available and then order everything. Aaaaaargh :face_with_spiral_eyes:

I know, first world problems…
Thoughts?

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It’s your money and your choice, but for something like a CPU where they’re all from the same random silicon lottery I hate the idea of paying above MSRP.

Of course, I’ve got a gaming PC I’m happy enough with to wait until the first time the chip goes on sale probably mid next year … if you need that upgrade and it’s worth it to you then pull that trigger!

Also it might just be a thing from where I am, but I’d want to get it all in one go - the shops here have to give you a one year warranty, but if you pick up a part, find it’s faulty, then come back within a week or two usually it’s a smoother and quicker process to get a replacement (in my experience. It shouldn’t be. But it is).

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Yeah, that’s my problem. Ordinarily I’d just wait a few months but I have had random blue screens for the last months that I haven’t been able to track down. Memtest, disk check etc didn’t come up with anything and it isn’t regular or connected to a specific activity…

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I agree with @Torc - I usually won’t pay above MSRP, but I have also timed upgrades so that I am buying ‘current’ gen when the next generation is just around the corner and stores are starting to discount the hardware.

If you need it now, 20€ is only an extra 1% on top what you are already going to be paying… I’ll take those odds on the silicon lottery.

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Pull the trigger now through a dealer you trust to actually deliver.

Nobody needs random BSODs!

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Or burn some money on the cheapest AM5 cpu just to sell it two months later.

Buying after Christmas is usually a good thing, though.

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Thanks for the input guys, I’ll sleep on it for a few days before making a decision. Probably pull the trigger but it’s a lot of money.

Yeah it’s annoying. I am not worried about losing any important data though. I have multiple backups for the important things, local, off-site and online.

Thought about that, but don’t really like the idea.

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Frankly, the 7800X3D is hardly a poor choice. I think it needs an AM4 socket board instead of AM5 though, and then you’re not in a position to upgrade to a newer one without a new mobo again.

So if you can bear to wait, the 9800X3D is worth waiting for even at a measly 20 over stock price. If you really can’t, though, I don’t think you’d be let down by a 7800X3D even though your next upgrade round will cost you a bit more.

Nah the 7800X3D, while AM5, is way too expensive right now, only 60-80€ less than the 9800X3D

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I was thinking more like a 7600 from a second hand.

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Sound s like you already made up your mind to wait. There is no right answer… just what fits your situation best. Enjoy!!!

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Welcome to Mudspike Frismo! A voice of reason amongst the Bad Influencers :joy:

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I’m also in the game for buying a new rig in 2025.

I’m looking for 9800X3D and either a RTX5080 or the newly announced 5070Ti which should be released in Feb 25.

Looking back to recent hardware releases I’m a little concerned about scalpers. I hope AMD and nVidia are flooding the market with so many products that this strategy won’t work this time.

My current rig is a 7 year old i7700 / 1070 (non Ti). It’s amazing how this keeps on performing if you don’t use VR but a 1080p monitor. Still getting 50-100 fps on Syria MP with low-medium settings.

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You should be all right from scalpers by midyear after the releases have time to fill all the “day 1” orders.

The 2020/2021 scalping was due to the whole Crypto/AI nonsense…

I’d personally get the 9800X3D and skimp on the GPU if necessary to make that happen (on the theory that you’ll update the GPU before the platform and CPU) - but make sure you get a GPU with at least 16GB Vram!

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Time to go 11 I guess.
And while I’m at it…maybe some hardware upgrades. :wink:

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Ooof, thast sucks…
I was intending to order everything last night and because I wanted to save shipping costs I waited until after midnight… Well I should have just ordered before midnight. The shop delisted the 9800X3D again. Their backlog of orders probably exceed some limit.

I’ll immediately order next time it becomes available.

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Netwtw10.sys – That’s your Intel Wifi driver crashing.

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Yeah, I found the culprit. A dead BIOS battery caused a reset and enabled the onboard WIFI. Must have caused trouble with the PCI WIFI.

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So, what about:

Ryzen 9800X3D

ASUS ROG Strix Gaming X870F

Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000MHz 64GB
2x32GB, AMD EXPO, CL30-36-36-76

That RAM is good… do we trust Asus boards again now?

As an aside, I’m hearing there are problems with MSI AMD AM5 motherboards at the moment - they seem to have some power management issue and cause the CPU to run hot?

I’m not sure if it was ever really true, but I remember when we thought there were some brands you could just trust to do the job properly, even if they were a bit more expensive…