Nice!
Wondering here how foveated rendering and DLSS upscaling works…?
Looking forward to try the new DLSS 4.
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So, here I am, installing my NVMe’s.
I took for granted that the decals should be removed, but it turns out that the decal is extremely sticky, like it has cooling paste added to it. Can’t find anything in the installation guide on this, but the sink on the mobo also has paste, on both sides…
I’ll remove the protective film on the heatsinks, but what about the NVMe decal/paste?
Well, R5 3600X is only 6 cores / 12 threads CPU. The tested R5 3600 has a lower frequency, minus 200 Mhz. I believe that a performance R7 3700X 8 cores / 16 threads CPU is comparable with R5 5600 (precisely said with R5 5600X) if we talk about multicore performance. So if DCS has support from multicore, and as I know it has, I believe R5 5600 is a valid result in my opinion.
No the 5600 is a more modern and much improved architecture compared to the 3700X and even though DCS is multicore now the single thread performance is a lot more important still. The clockspeed isn’t the deciding factor here, the important metric is the IPC uplift (instructions per cycle) and the Ryzen 5000 CPUs saw a pretty big IPC uplift compared to Ryzen 3000. For true multicore workloads, yes it might be comparable to the 3700X but in gaming workloads, even with games that support multicore, the 5600X will be a pretty nice improvement over the 3700X. In DCS the 3700X will be a few percent faster than the 3600X while the 5600X will give a pretty nice bump
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Still playing around with the components.
500€ for a mainboard is a little steep for my taste. I’d like to go with a 870E board to future proof it regarding USB 4.0.
What do you think of this one?
It’s 200 € cheaper than the Asrock Taichi (Taichi Lites are out of stock it seems).
Regarding GPU I’m still researching. Seems like a 4070 Super might be a good compromise. Alternate has a Zotac for 650 €…
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Just FYI there are two PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots on that board that share lanes with the x16 PCIe slot. Even if you only use one of them it will be a x8 PCIe slot instead of an x16 slot. It’s not that big a deal at the moment but might become an issue when you want to upgrade your GPU in future.
Edit: Also, damn. The Taichi has seen a massive price increase since January. It was well below 500€ a couple of weeks ago. When I bought my Taichi Lite it was out of stock but the week before it was listed at something like 470€. Still very expensive but not nearly as bad as it is now
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Galaxus has the Taichi Lite listed, still expensive of course but it’s the same as the Taichi, just lacking the backplate, RGB lighting and some additional VRM heatsinks.
https://www.galaxus.de/de/s1/product/asrock-x870e-taichi-lite-am5-amd-x870e-e-atx-mainboard-49690734
You don’t have to remove the decals from the nvmes, they transfer heat well enough (note the thickness of the pad for the heatsink that came with the motherboard. We’re not talking the same heat transfer as the CPU or anything like that).
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Thanks! I suspected this since it isn’t mentioned that the decals must be removed. I just thought that it couldn’t hurt, and quickly realized that this was more than a decal…
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Alright. I think I will draw the line at 400€ for the mainboard.
What about the ASRock Nova?
https://pg.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X870E%20Nova%20WiFi/index.us.asp#Specification
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Yes, the SSD decals are designed as part of the cooling. If you have one of those cover plates, definitely remove the liner backing before placing it over the drive, but if you’re placing it in an open slot than the sticker is all it has.
There are SSDs with integrated heat sinks, but those are the higher end ones.
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These ones were available with or without, integrated sinks. Since the mobo has its own sinks, I went with bare NVMe’s.
Well my new rig is suddenly having issues. Gaming is fine. But the last two days, once a day, while idling or watching YouTube, everything becomes unresponsive for a minute and then the PC reboots itself with a “watchdog” event in the event viewer, with zero helpful diagnostic information.
Searching around this seems to be an issue with the 7800x3d and not a single thread I’ve found on it has offered a solution…
Tried turning off any and all power management?
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Well, a fact that R5 5600/X has better IPC and therefore better single-core performance I know but I was hoping that if DCS is fully multicore supported it should be comparable. 8 cores vs 6 cores.
I tried to fly DCS on the overclocked AMD Phenom II X4 955 @4Ghz all cores and multi-core DCS performance were much better than single-core, like playable vs unplayable.
How can DCS multicore still heavy demand on the single core performance, if the engine is optimized for multicore?
The entire power management service had been stopped and I don’t recall turning it off. I turned it back on and set everything to high performance, and did a BIOS update. I noticed in BIOS that my RAM is stated as 5600mhz but running at 5200mhz. No idea of that’s related, but I haven’t touched BIOS settings at all. They’re all default.
Because concurrency in programming is hard. Being able to use the extra cores at all is quite an achievement. You cannot expect a game, certainly one as complex as DCS, to run 25% faster when you add 25% more cores.
I am aware this is not a satisfying explanation. If you really want to know why, you should try building a game yourself with multi-core support. I’m sorry.
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To add to this. DCS’ code base is really old. They managed to offload some tasks to another thread (which is quite an achievement). Just because they now use more than one core doesn’t mean you can compare it to an application which was developed with multi core CPUs in mind. Afaik they are not really taking advantage of multiple cores for the heavy lifting. The only expection I know was the A2G radar in the F-15E…
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Yeah, it’s a very decent board. It will disable the PCIe 3 x16 slot if you use specific NVMe slots but I don’t think that’s going to be an issue. The PCIe 5 x16 slot is unaffected and there is another PCIe slot as well should you need it.
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No worries, I was just curious. I think that @Derbysieger mentioned that only something was offloaded to the few more cores when we discussed a topic on the Discord channel live.
I understand that programming to use all cores is more difficult. Upgrade to R7 9800X3D is the best choice for me.
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