The easiest and cheapest upgrade would be to simply get a 5700X3D.
BTW the multicore score for my 9800X3D is only about 2000pts higher than my 5900X. Considering it has 4 cores less than the 5900X that’s quite an upgrade.
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Unfortunately, R7 5700X3D is not good in applications. Is worse than mine R7 3700X.
Which applications?
Well, maybe I was not correct but the difference in productivity applications is not too much better (sometimes worse). Of course much better in games. I think that instead bough the R5 5700X3D is better to buy a new AM5 with a cheaper but still good enough R7 9700X.
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The 5700X3D’s main selling point is gaming performance on an old motherboard, and you pay a hefty premium for that. Value-based pricing…
And Ryzen 9000 is a big performance jump. Even a Ryzen 5 9600X is a good 30% better than the Ryzen 7 5700X3D on average at productivity benchmarks, while gaming performance is very similar between the two.
But an AM5 MoBo is €150, DDR5 RAM is twice as expensive as DDR4, and you’ll need a new PSU to power the new MoBo with a new ATX standard.
@Rapier I am still interested to hear which applications you regularly use that could use the raw multicore performance btw 
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@Derbysieger, have you considered turning off the slowest cores in Ryzen Master? The theory being you don’t need all cores for a game/flightsim, but locking out the slow ones avoids having the game run on those…
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No, I haven’t but since this has only one CCD with eight cores anyway I don’t think it would help much especially since I also livestream on a more or less regular basis so it might even be counterproductive. From what I have seen in the limited amount of tersting I have done so far there is not much difference between the fastest and slowest core anyway.
Frame times in DCS are much more stable and I get 5-10fps more compared to my old system. That’s already more than expected since I was limited by the GPU even before the new build. I’ll try and grab a founders edition RTX 5090 on release day and once that is here I might look into that option if I am not happy with the results.
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I see. Curious to see how it will perform with my 4090. The webshop where I placed a second order for the CPU, delayed their expected shipping date by a week… 
Frankly, I doubt any webshop in scandinavia knows when they will receive their shipments and they post early dates just to get orders.
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Streaming setup is working 
I just need to install the XR Toolkit to reduce the shaking from the headset.
Edit: I am absolutely blown away right now. On the old PC in the Phantom on the Afghanistan map, performance on the ground at camp Bastion was so bad it was unplayable (other modules where fine) but now I actually get 40ish fps which while not great is actually playable. It’s too late for today but that must mean it should be absolutely smooth in other modules like the Viper or A-10C. The only situation so far where I see a massive performance uplift (more than 100% uplift on the ground!)
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I watched the beginning before I had to head out for the day - it looks amazing!
Well, I was considering using a CPU cores performance for streaming, and video editing. In reality, due to a lack of time is situation different.
After about a week with the new PC I can happily say that it runs absolutely fantastic so far. Everything is a little smoother than before with less hiccups than on the old rig but of course there are no major jumps in performance except for the oddity that is Afghanistan because I am still bound by my 3080TI in VR. There is a bigger improvement when running DCS in 3440x1440p but I only run that for testing, all my flying is done in VR these days.
The CPU maxes out around 75-80°C in Cinebench when running the cooler in silent mode, about 70° maximum in standard mode. Running DCS, it doesn’t go past 70°C in silent mode, no hotter than 47°C with the standard fan curve profile but that’s a little loud for my taste so I set it back to silent.
I am keen to get my hands on a 5090 soon™ which I hope will make a real difference in VR.
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Just saw AMD exec commenting on the shortage of 7800 and 9800X3D’s along the lines of “when we planned the release we weren’t counting on Intel’s new chip being so poor” and they miscalculated the demand.
People calling the new Arrow Lake release “Broken Arrow” in fact.
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I’ll keep an eye for how this turns out. I’m thinking about upgrading my 5900x and 3080ti setup this year as well (I’m still thorn on how to proceed, if I do a full upgrade and go for a 5080 or if I get a 5090 and skip another CPU generation, or even if I do only the CPU and wait for the mid tier 5080 S Ti or whatever). Thank god there are no lack of options for making bad financial decisions.
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You’ve correctly identified that you don’t really need an upgrade, but as I’d like to vicariously live through your
can I recommend an upgrade to the AM5 platform and a 7900X/9900X or a 9800X3D (whichever better suits your workflow)… 3080 Ti is still a great card, and I’d personally feel better rewarding AMD for their steps forward and continued support of their existing AM5 platform than nvidia for their effective abandonment of the PC gaming market in favor of “AI everything”!
And we will probably see an “S” or “Super” or “Ti” (pronounced “TIE!” 
- and yes they’re already using that for the 5070 Ti but since when has possible confusion stopped them?) but no comment as to whether it’s going to offer the same increase in value as the 40XX Supers did…
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I wouldn’t have upgraded without planning to upgrade the GPU as well.
To put things in perspective: when I moved from an i7 6700k with 32GB DDR4-2800 to a Ryzen 9 5900X with 64GB DDR4-3600 it was a massive performance gain, about 30-50% better performance at 1440p (same RTX 2070 in both systems).
Now, in VR, this is not the case when moving from the 5900X with a 3080TI to a 9800X3D (I think there’s something wrong with the scenery on Afghanistan otherwise I wouldn’t see this much of a performance gain on this map only so I will dismiss it as a outlier for now).
Frame times are less jumpy and there’s some small performance gains, especially while streaming DCS to YouTube and especially Discord but it’s not a massive improvement, maybe +5% at best, a little more gains while streaming, up to 20% while streaming to discord since the discord hardware acceleration sucks compared to OBS.
If you play at 1440p there are some more noticeable gains, especially on demanding maps like Kola but it’s not anywhere near what I experienced when I switched to the 5900X.
The AIO cimbined with a case that has much better airflow than the old Corsair case I had before is much quieter while at the same time keeping the 9800X3D nice and cool (the 5900X does get a quite bit hotter when cooled by an NH-U12S, especially under all core loads).
In conclusion: if you do not plan on building a completely new PC including the GPU I wouldn’t recommend a CPU upgrade if you have a 5900X and a 3080Ti. If you play in VR the best single component upgrade you can do is to get a GPU with at least 16GB VRAM. You might become CPU bound in that case but you will see a worthwhile jump in performance in relation to the money spend.
Please note that this was pretty much what I expected to happen because the GPU is the component which is holding me back the most in VR, hence my plans to get a 5090 as well.
I am happy with the new build, even now while still running the 3080Ti because it’s quieter, ready for the next few years and when exporting batches of photos in Lightroom the 9800X3D is actually amazingly fast compared to the 5900X but I wouldn’t say it’s 2200€ better (yeah, this build cost 2200€ so far, and yes you can build an equally good system for much less, I just decided to really spend some 
this time 
)
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(Listen to Derbysieger for good buying advice - he is actually living through it 
)
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I agree with you all, and thanks Derby for the honest opinion. I love the system the way it is, but a better graphics card would certainly make me able to enjoy DCS in a new 4k tv or in VR, both considerable upgrades in quality of life, comparing to my current setup. And yes, this setup will still grant me at least 2 more years of fun, since it was so high end at it’s time (let’s be honest, it still is), but sometimes it’s really hard to keep the cool…
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I need to read better - you’re less likely to see improvement from changing CPUs at those sort of high resolution tasks than you are with a GPU change. The 5900X is still killing it for that sort of thing
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Woohooo!
The other webshop, where I placed my extra CPU order, came through! My 9800X3D has been packed and is about to leave the warehouse!
They also got a batch of Asrock Taichi mobos, so I ordered one of those as well.
Will cancel my order with the first webshop.
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